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	<title>Comments on: This Just In, Your 99 Yard Touchdown Run Will Look Better On An Xbox 360&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: NEWS: This Just In, Your 80 Yard TD Run Will Look Better On A 360… &#171; Xbox 360 News</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWS: This Just In, Your 80 Yard TD Run Will Look Better On A 360… &#171; Xbox 360 News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Real World Weather Affects NCAA 08 &#124; ripten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real World Weather Affects NCAA 08 &#124; ripten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cool as this is idea is, it&#8217;s still been reported elsewhere that the 360 version of NCAA 08 runs at a silky smooth 60 frames per second, and the PS3 version is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Post E3 Interview: EA Sports Madden 08 - "It's Kinda' Sorta' In The Game" &#124; ripten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Post E3 Interview: EA Sports Madden 08 - "It's Kinda' Sorta' In The Game" &#124; ripten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last thing we looked to address was the framerate discrepancies between the two systems. For those who are not familiar with this, the 360 version of Madden will [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daring Ya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daring Ya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Yodi the 360 is stratching up your cds?

and how do the PS3 developers get the FPS up to 60?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Yodi the 360 is stratching up your cds?</p>
<p>and how do the PS3 developers get the FPS up to 60?</p>
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		<title>By: This Just In, Your 99 Yard Touchdown Run Will Look Better On An Xbox 360… &#171; All Things News</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Just In, Your 99 Yard Touchdown Run Will Look Better On An Xbox 360… &#171; All Things News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Filed under: Digg Articles, Video Games, Microsoft &#8212; Jason Jeffrey @ 9:06 am   Straight from Ripten: &#8220;It has been confirmed that Madden NFL 08 and NCAA Football 08 will run at 60 frames per [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bits bytes pixels &#38; sprites &#187; Archives &#187; Weekend Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>bits bytes pixels &#38; sprites &#187; Archives &#187; Weekend Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Madden and NCAA football on 360 = 60fps. PS3 = 30fps. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yodi</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Yodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha its funny that the Crappy Madden Game is still by far the best on the Ps2 yeah the Graphics look better on the 360 and 360 port to Ps3 version but. I still play the ps2 version. Sport games on the 360 are the worst everytime I've played NCAA 07 and Live 07 they just kept eating up my Disc's and scratching them.The 360 in my opinion is by far the worst system by far that should have been delayed and tested longer.Gears War ran pretty good,and Oblivion just skipped all the damn time! Trade in Value of a 360 at my Local Gamestop is only 180 usd i can get 150 for my psp and its cheaper to buy new vs the 360. All in all Yes 60fps is better than 30 fps but when a system over long periods of time is running a HDD at those speeds something is going to break very quickly especially if the system has a high failure rate 33%. I've went through 2 xbox's and still have my original 360 still but i rarely play it only game played lately was GoW 2 months ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha its funny that the Crappy Madden Game is still by far the best on the Ps2 yeah the Graphics look better on the 360 and 360 port to Ps3 version but. I still play the ps2 version. Sport games on the 360 are the worst everytime I&#8217;ve played NCAA 07 and Live 07 they just kept eating up my Disc&#8217;s and scratching them.The 360 in my opinion is by far the worst system by far that should have been delayed and tested longer.Gears War ran pretty good,and Oblivion just skipped all the damn time! Trade in Value of a 360 at my Local Gamestop is only 180 usd i can get 150 for my psp and its cheaper to buy new vs the 360. All in all Yes 60fps is better than 30 fps but when a system over long periods of time is running a HDD at those speeds something is going to break very quickly especially if the system has a high failure rate 33%. I&#8217;ve went through 2 xbox&#8217;s and still have my original 360 still but i rarely play it only game played lately was GoW 2 months ago</p>
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		<title>By: JOe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 03:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't help but chuckle when I read the post that said something like "ps3 lovers are trying to tell us that there is no difference between 30fps and 60fps."

I am sure that most of us ps3 lovers or owners realize that things will look better once they start making 60fps games, but the bottom line is even at 30fps the games can look fabulous-  in fact they make look so good that the average user wouldn't be able to see the difference.  

I'm more concerned with the gameplay of madden and I would rather them enhance the gameplay then worry about an extra 30fps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but chuckle when I read the post that said something like &#8220;ps3 lovers are trying to tell us that there is no difference between 30fps and 60fps.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am sure that most of us ps3 lovers or owners realize that things will look better once they start making 60fps games, but the bottom line is even at 30fps the games can look fabulous-  in fact they make look so good that the average user wouldn&#8217;t be able to see the difference.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m more concerned with the gameplay of madden and I would rather them enhance the gameplay then worry about an extra 30fps.</p>
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		<title>By: Aggravated Gamers &#187; NEWS: This Just In, Your 80 Yard TD Run Will Look Better On A 360…</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] per second on the Sony Playstation 3. This has to be very frustrating for loyal Playstation owners.read more &#124; digg story   Share: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: el capitano</title>
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		<dc:creator>el capitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed,

I would expect like games like Gran turismo 5 to be pretty drool worthy, from what i've seen, it's gonna be stellar.  Honestly, MGS4 doesn't impress me too much yet (i've seen some really horrid textures in game, gears spoiled me i guess)..

but for the most part, i don't think there will be enough to make me want a PS3 in the near future...

my 360 will suit me just fine (90+ games coming out in the next 6 months or so, should keep me pretty busy)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed,</p>
<p>I would expect like games like Gran turismo 5 to be pretty drool worthy, from what i&#8217;ve seen, it&#8217;s gonna be stellar.  Honestly, MGS4 doesn&#8217;t impress me too much yet (i&#8217;ve seen some really horrid textures in game, gears spoiled me i guess)..</p>
<p>but for the most part, i don&#8217;t think there will be enough to make me want a PS3 in the near future&#8230;</p>
<p>my 360 will suit me just fine (90+ games coming out in the next 6 months or so, should keep me pretty busy)..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Goetschius</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Goetschius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people have already pointed out the reasons to this, but to sum up:

1. There are more 360's than PS3's in the wild ATM. Any development team would either give equal resources to both platforms, or more to the 360 (it's just logical that you would put more resources where the results could have a higher impact on sales). 

2. It is harder to develop for the PS3 than the 360. Assuming equal resources were given to both, the PS3 would always come out with an inferior product. This fact just isn't arguable either, and not a single developer for both denies this.

Until there are more PS3's than XBox360's, I doubt any games will look better on PS3. The best looking games for PS3 will be PS3 only, and for reasons that stem from the above. The development reasons are also why the best looking games (that would still be first generation IMHO) that utilize the PS3 hardware at least to a better degree than multi-platform games won't come out for another year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have already pointed out the reasons to this, but to sum up:</p>
<p>1. There are more 360&#8217;s than PS3&#8217;s in the wild ATM. Any development team would either give equal resources to both platforms, or more to the 360 (it&#8217;s just logical that you would put more resources where the results could have a higher impact on sales). </p>
<p>2. It is harder to develop for the PS3 than the 360. Assuming equal resources were given to both, the PS3 would always come out with an inferior product. This fact just isn&#8217;t arguable either, and not a single developer for both denies this.</p>
<p>Until there are more PS3&#8217;s than XBox360&#8217;s, I doubt any games will look better on PS3. The best looking games for PS3 will be PS3 only, and for reasons that stem from the above. The development reasons are also why the best looking games (that would still be first generation IMHO) that utilize the PS3 hardware at least to a better degree than multi-platform games won&#8217;t come out for another year.</p>
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		<title>By: lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey andrew.. The PS3 games have been under dev. longer so u can`t compare it that way Oo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey andrew.. The PS3 games have been under dev. longer so u can`t compare it that way Oo</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"WaSSaBi on July 1, 2007 2:46

i dunno man… the first few 360 games didnt look too stunning either…"

Err....  PGR3?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WaSSaBi on July 1, 2007 2:46</p>
<p>i dunno man… the first few 360 games didnt look too stunning either…&#8221;</p>
<p>Err&#8230;.  PGR3?!</p>
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		<title>By: Blackrome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once Sony lost Ace Combat I knew they were in trouble. The game never made it to the Xbox. 
but now it's a timed exclusive on the 360. 

How many Ace combat fans will wait for the PS3 version or just save $200 on a system and play it this fall. Metal Gear doesn't hit the PS3 until 2008.

This news doesn't help. I believe this is going to go for the Basketball games also running at 60 fps. 

So you lost your exclusive flight game along with all the sports gamers going to 360 this Christmas. It's going to be a long cold winter for the Ps3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once Sony lost Ace Combat I knew they were in trouble. The game never made it to the Xbox.<br />
but now it&#8217;s a timed exclusive on the 360. </p>
<p>How many Ace combat fans will wait for the PS3 version or just save $200 on a system and play it this fall. Metal Gear doesn&#8217;t hit the PS3 until 2008.</p>
<p>This news doesn&#8217;t help. I believe this is going to go for the Basketball games also running at 60 fps. </p>
<p>So you lost your exclusive flight game along with all the sports gamers going to 360 this Christmas. It&#8217;s going to be a long cold winter for the Ps3.</p>
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		<title>By: langx</title>
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		<dc:creator>langx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm on the fence and I'm one of the guys who really only plays sports games. Once this info starts to go around the PS3 will be in big trouble. The main reason Dreamcast failed was because they did not have the support of EA. 
Which means Madden. There are alot of madden players who are waiting ot upgrade to next generation. This could be another nail in the coffin of the PS3. If MS lowers the price when halo hits the shelves or offer a bundle where you would get halo 3 free if you buy the 360  it may be over for Sony. Sony needs to lower the price now to the price of an elite. Right now I don't even know if that will help them. 
They are fighting against economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on the fence and I&#8217;m one of the guys who really only plays sports games. Once this info starts to go around the PS3 will be in big trouble. The main reason Dreamcast failed was because they did not have the support of EA.<br />
Which means Madden. There are alot of madden players who are waiting ot upgrade to next generation. This could be another nail in the coffin of the PS3. If MS lowers the price when halo hits the shelves or offer a bundle where you would get halo 3 free if you buy the 360  it may be over for Sony. Sony needs to lower the price now to the price of an elite. Right now I don&#8217;t even know if that will help them.<br />
They are fighting against economics.</p>
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		<title>By: el capitano</title>
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		<dc:creator>el capitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>far, far superior??

whatever i guess.  True, the cell is a pretty powerful CPU on paper, but not in practice as of yet..... Maybe that'll change.  The 360's CPU is no slouch.

Everything i've seen has put the 360's GPU above the RSX, considering how it is a true next gen GPU with some pretty nifty features not even found in high end next gen PC cards (i.e. 10mb edram), it's certainly not last gen like RSX... and it can do things the RSX can't, less shader restrictions, no penalty MSAA, memexport, more polygons on screen..

If anything both have strengths and weaknesses, and after it's all said and done, both are pretty even.  360 is by no means tapped out yet, and they are just scratching the surface of the PS3, i think the more things change, the more they'll stay the same, with PS3 possibly outshining 360 only much later in its life cycle, if it can manage to make it their gracefully and devs put the time in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>far, far superior??</p>
<p>whatever i guess.  True, the cell is a pretty powerful CPU on paper, but not in practice as of yet&#8230;.. Maybe that&#8217;ll change.  The 360&#8217;s CPU is no slouch.</p>
<p>Everything i&#8217;ve seen has put the 360&#8217;s GPU above the RSX, considering how it is a true next gen GPU with some pretty nifty features not even found in high end next gen PC cards (i.e. 10mb edram), it&#8217;s certainly not last gen like RSX&#8230; and it can do things the RSX can&#8217;t, less shader restrictions, no penalty MSAA, memexport, more polygons on screen..</p>
<p>If anything both have strengths and weaknesses, and after it&#8217;s all said and done, both are pretty even.  360 is by no means tapped out yet, and they are just scratching the surface of the PS3, i think the more things change, the more they&#8217;ll stay the same, with PS3 possibly outshining 360 only much later in its life cycle, if it can manage to make it their gracefully and devs put the time in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rainer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be the developers' fault. The PS3 is far, far superior to the 360 hardware-wise, give it some time, before long the devs won't be so daunted by the task.

That being said, devs on sports games rarely try anything outside the box. Not surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be the developers&#8217; fault. The PS3 is far, far superior to the 360 hardware-wise, give it some time, before long the devs won&#8217;t be so daunted by the task.</p>
<p>That being said, devs on sports games rarely try anything outside the box. Not surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jajaja, PS3 is getting owned, in sales and now by devs. Noone wants to spend time tweaking 60fps into a game on a console noone wants. See the GC for an example. PS3 is dead in the water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jajaja, PS3 is getting owned, in sales and now by devs. Noone wants to spend time tweaking 60fps into a game on a console noone wants. See the GC for an example. PS3 is dead in the water.</p>
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		<title>By: superk</title>
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		<dc:creator>superk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul says, 'Consoles are a throwback...'

The console share of the market gets bigger and bigger all the time, while the PC side shrinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul says, &#8216;Consoles are a throwback&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>The console share of the market gets bigger and bigger all the time, while the PC side shrinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mime90</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Mime90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>graphics are nice and all but whatever happend to when it was just about gameplay because they'll probably have the same gameplay and if not that will be really weird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>graphics are nice and all but whatever happend to when it was just about gameplay because they&#8217;ll probably have the same gameplay and if not that will be really weird</p>
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		<title>By: wyttearp</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>wyttearp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a really common misconception.  Since we can't tell the differnence between 30 and 60 FPS in film, people think the same is true for games, but it isn't.  If it were the other way around you'd hear just as many Xbox fans saying that 60 FPS is no better than 30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a really common misconception.  Since we can&#8217;t tell the differnence between 30 and 60 FPS in film, people think the same is true for games, but it isn&#8217;t.  If it were the other way around you&#8217;d hear just as many Xbox fans saying that 60 FPS is no better than 30.</p>
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		<title>By: waka</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>waka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now sonyfanboys are saying that 30 FPS is as good as 60 FPS. YEAH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now sonyfanboys are saying that 30 FPS is as good as 60 FPS. YEAH.</p>
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		<title>By: el capitano</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>el capitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you want to swallow that PR crap, be my guest.

SPIN AWAY....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you want to swallow that PR crap, be my guest.</p>
<p>SPIN AWAY&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look everyone, everyone know the ps3 is technically superior. EA has always had a problem with lazy development, and they have to play to the strengths of each console. 


"We want to make sure that we give the best experience we can on each platform. In designing a game, there are all sorts of tradeoffs that include frame rate, visuals, features, AI, etc. Football is an extremely challenging sport to replicate because of the number of people on the field, their interaction, and the scope of the environments. As you can see, every company making a football game this year made a decision that the best experience for the Xbox 360 included 60fps whereas the best experience for the PS3 was 30fps. We certainly believe that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions are our football products are outstanding experiences and recommend that each gamer look at the entire experience, not just one aspect. We think they'll be very happy no matter which version of the game they play." 

that was made by the vice president of EA sports marketing. maybe people should get their facts straight before they post such raw bullshit. and in response to everyones blu ray argument. look at the numbers, i don't think sony shoving the ps3 as a blu ray player down peoples throats was such a bad idea, because as of last month, blu rau is leading in sales at a 5 to 1 ratio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look everyone, everyone know the ps3 is technically superior. EA has always had a problem with lazy development, and they have to play to the strengths of each console. </p>
<p>&#8220;We want to make sure that we give the best experience we can on each platform. In designing a game, there are all sorts of tradeoffs that include frame rate, visuals, features, AI, etc. Football is an extremely challenging sport to replicate because of the number of people on the field, their interaction, and the scope of the environments. As you can see, every company making a football game this year made a decision that the best experience for the Xbox 360 included 60fps whereas the best experience for the PS3 was 30fps. We certainly believe that both the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions are our football products are outstanding experiences and recommend that each gamer look at the entire experience, not just one aspect. We think they&#8217;ll be very happy no matter which version of the game they play.&#8221; </p>
<p>that was made by the vice president of EA sports marketing. maybe people should get their facts straight before they post such raw bullshit. and in response to everyones blu ray argument. look at the numbers, i don&#8217;t think sony shoving the ps3 as a blu ray player down peoples throats was such a bad idea, because as of last month, blu rau is leading in sales at a 5 to 1 ratio.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like a phone that can surf the web, or an mp3 player that can also watch videos, the PS3 is a $600 blu-ray player that, Oh by the way!, can also play some games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a phone that can surf the web, or an mp3 player that can also watch videos, the PS3 is a $600 blu-ray player that, Oh by the way!, can also play some games.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you buy a console, any console, you are giving up all hope of being free to select the hardware and software that offers you the most freedom. 

All complaints about one console versus another fall on deaf ears here. 

It's a PC. Only the most locked-in and unupgradeable PC you can possibly buy. If you don't like having limited options then don't support the damn things. Consoles are a throwback to a time when people didn't own computers. They are a marketing ploy to produce ever larger profits.

So, go back to your XBoxes and PS3s and deal with your choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you buy a console, any console, you are giving up all hope of being free to select the hardware and software that offers you the most freedom. </p>
<p>All complaints about one console versus another fall on deaf ears here. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a PC. Only the most locked-in and unupgradeable PC you can possibly buy. If you don&#8217;t like having limited options then don&#8217;t support the damn things. Consoles are a throwback to a time when people didn&#8217;t own computers. They are a marketing ploy to produce ever larger profits.</p>
<p>So, go back to your XBoxes and PS3s and deal with your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: el capitano</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>el capitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry,

If anyone is going to tell me that 30 frames doesn't matter compared to 60, you are KIDDING yourself.

When a game runs at 30 fps, i can tell, simple as that.  60 is fluid, 30 is jerky but coherent.

When forza opted for 60, i understood, and i think it was a good decision, esp. for racing and feeling of speed (granted, racing games are more demanding when it comes to the required fps for a good experience).

ON that note, animations, running, etc. will LOOK BETTER at 60 frames...  Read the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry,</p>
<p>If anyone is going to tell me that 30 frames doesn&#8217;t matter compared to 60, you are KIDDING yourself.</p>
<p>When a game runs at 30 fps, i can tell, simple as that.  60 is fluid, 30 is jerky but coherent.</p>
<p>When forza opted for 60, i understood, and i think it was a good decision, esp. for racing and feeling of speed (granted, racing games are more demanding when it comes to the required fps for a good experience).</p>
<p>ON that note, animations, running, etc. will LOOK BETTER at 60 frames&#8230;  Read the title.</p>
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		<title>By: wyttearp</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>wyttearp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, which is why I replied the way I did.  He said TV and movies run at 48-72 FPS, which they don't.  Then he said 60 FPS is ideal for gaming, which is absolutely true for PC gaming on a monitor, and mostly true for console gaming on a TV (more important in high def than on standard). Of course we are talking about console gaming, so it isn't nearly as big a deal. I wasn't completely disagreeing with him. I have a PS3 and no XBox, but 60 FPS is obviously something that is nice to have... certainly not a dealbreaker when it comes to console gaming though. At least not for anyone who cares about the games more than bragging about their system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, which is why I replied the way I did.  He said TV and movies run at 48-72 FPS, which they don&#8217;t.  Then he said 60 FPS is ideal for gaming, which is absolutely true for PC gaming on a monitor, and mostly true for console gaming on a TV (more important in high def than on standard). Of course we are talking about console gaming, so it isn&#8217;t nearly as big a deal. I wasn&#8217;t completely disagreeing with him. I have a PS3 and no XBox, but 60 FPS is obviously something that is nice to have&#8230; certainly not a dealbreaker when it comes to console gaming though. At least not for anyone who cares about the games more than bragging about their system.</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@wyttearp

did you even read Nyteshades post?</description>
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<p>did you even read Nyteshades post?</p>
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		<title>By: wyttearp</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/06/30/news-your-80-yard-td-run-will-look-better-on-a-360/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>wyttearp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nyteshade
Movies do NOT run at 60 FPS, they run at 24..and TV runs at 30 FPS. The 48-72 is not FPS, it's how many times the TV flashes(the hertz of the screen), and it flashes the same image based on the FPS.  With computer gaming people raise the hertz and the FPS because of the quality of the screen and their distance from it... flickering is much more noticable.  Not the same on a console.  You are correct though in that 60 FPS will still look better than 30, as it will be smoother. Of course I hate sports games so it matters little to me, and anytime a company designs a game for one system and then ports it to another the ported one always comes out crappy.  That's always been true, and since XBox has been around longer they're getting the original version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nyteshade<br />
Movies do NOT run at 60 FPS, they run at 24..and TV runs at 30 FPS. The 48-72 is not FPS, it&#8217;s how many times the TV flashes(the hertz of the screen), and it flashes the same image based on the FPS.  With computer gaming people raise the hertz and the FPS because of the quality of the screen and their distance from it&#8230; flickering is much more noticable.  Not the same on a console.  You are correct though in that 60 FPS will still look better than 30, as it will be smoother. Of course I hate sports games so it matters little to me, and anytime a company designs a game for one system and then ports it to another the ported one always comes out crappy.  That&#8217;s always been true, and since XBox has been around longer they&#8217;re getting the original version.</p>
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