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	<title>Comments on: GTA IV Delay: 360 Hard Drive Variable? PS3 Development Difficulty? Neither?</title>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi nice post, i enjoyed it</description>
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		<title>By: PS3Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS3Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, the only people that know the reason for the delay are Rockstar developers themselves.  All of the reasons so far for the delay are RUMORS.  It could be the difficulty developing for the PS3.  It could be the fact that some 360s have no HDD.  It could be that you cannot fit the game on a DVD9.  It could be because of  Halo 3.  We just don't know.  IMHO, I think it is partly because of the 360s lack of hardware AND because of the difficulty developing for the PS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, the only people that know the reason for the delay are Rockstar developers themselves.  All of the reasons so far for the delay are RUMORS.  It could be the difficulty developing for the PS3.  It could be the fact that some 360s have no HDD.  It could be that you cannot fit the game on a DVD9.  It could be because of  Halo 3.  We just don&#8217;t know.  IMHO, I think it is partly because of the 360s lack of hardware AND because of the difficulty developing for the PS3.</p>
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		<title>By: cigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>cigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a lot of crap - the fault is clearly the problems with the PS3. All the video and pictures untill now have been taken from a XBOX360. And since Sony has an agreement with Rockstar that the XBOX360 and PS3 versions should be published simultanusly - this could not be done with the delay of the PS3.

Thats it - thats facts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a lot of crap - the fault is clearly the problems with the PS3. All the video and pictures untill now have been taken from a XBOX360. And since Sony has an agreement with Rockstar that the XBOX360 and PS3 versions should be published simultanusly - this could not be done with the delay of the PS3.</p>
<p>Thats it - thats facts</p>
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		<title>By: Panther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who bought the Core System has to be the dumbest gamer ever. If money was an issue why don't you just save alittle longer because by the time you bought the system and a memory card its already close to $350 maybe if you people weren't such cheap customers and actually bought the better value you wouldn't be complaining and Halo 3 will dominate this Christmas weather you want it to or not so just shut up already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who bought the Core System has to be the dumbest gamer ever. If money was an issue why don&#8217;t you just save alittle longer because by the time you bought the system and a memory card its already close to $350 maybe if you people weren&#8217;t such cheap customers and actually bought the better value you wouldn&#8217;t be complaining and Halo 3 will dominate this Christmas weather you want it to or not so just shut up already</p>
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		<title>By: gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the reason they delayed it is because R* want to put so much detail in to the game and make all the other games on the market look shit 

but then again they have too make that download able stuff more the xbox360 and a 6 month delay gives them more time to perfect the game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the reason they delayed it is because R* want to put so much detail in to the game and make all the other games on the market look shit </p>
<p>but then again they have too make that download able stuff more the xbox360 and a 6 month delay gives them more time to perfect the game</p>
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		<title>By: Gamer2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamer2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GTA San Andreas was huge.  Did it require the ps2 using a HDD?  I think not.  I find it funny that everyone fears the Halo effect.  Reason why UT3 and haze are releasing for 360 later.  I think they delayed it because they had a contract with Microsoft to launch day one.  They held it back because of the Halo effect and had to hold it from ps3 because of the contract.  Remember Microsoft payed a lot of money to have Peter Moore go on stage with that tat on his arm to announce it.  To clear up the Halo effect:  remember a game called Project Snowblind?  Many of you might not.  They released it 5-6 months after Halo 2 and it bombed because everyone was STILL playing Halo 2.  That was a great game.  You cannot deny the Halo effect.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GTA San Andreas was huge.  Did it require the ps2 using a HDD?  I think not.  I find it funny that everyone fears the Halo effect.  Reason why UT3 and haze are releasing for 360 later.  I think they delayed it because they had a contract with Microsoft to launch day one.  They held it back because of the Halo effect and had to hold it from ps3 because of the contract.  Remember Microsoft payed a lot of money to have Peter Moore go on stage with that tat on his arm to announce it.  To clear up the Halo effect:  remember a game called Project Snowblind?  Many of you might not.  They released it 5-6 months after Halo 2 and it bombed because everyone was STILL playing Halo 2.  That was a great game.  You cannot deny the Halo effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Dew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fault is 360's lack of HDD on the core system. GTA IV is undoubtedly going to be a huge game, and fitting it all in on a single DVD seems challenging. Micro$oft just for the sake of competition wouldn't allow the game to be on two discs, and it woulnd't make sense for this type of game, so a HDD is very important. If developing for the PS3 was hard, Rockstar wouldn't have agreed to develop a new franchise exclusively on the PS3, or L.A. Noire. So difficulty to develop for the PS3 is bullsh*t excuse and it's getting old. PS3 version could be delayed 2-3 weeks for that, not 6 months! 

The fault could be Rockstar's own. Developing such a big game for two very different platforms can give any developer a difficulties. People who saw the game in action (running on the 360) said the framerate was terrible - another reason to the contrary why 360 could be responsible, just as much as we'd like to speculate the PS3 version was not ready.

Ultimately, the delay helps gamers. There's so many great games coming this holiday season anyway! I don't know how I'm gonna afford all of them, so I can live without GTA for a while if it means I can get an improved game when I have the time and money to play it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fault is 360&#8217;s lack of HDD on the core system. GTA IV is undoubtedly going to be a huge game, and fitting it all in on a single DVD seems challenging. Micro$oft just for the sake of competition wouldn&#8217;t allow the game to be on two discs, and it woulnd&#8217;t make sense for this type of game, so a HDD is very important. If developing for the PS3 was hard, Rockstar wouldn&#8217;t have agreed to develop a new franchise exclusively on the PS3, or L.A. Noire. So difficulty to develop for the PS3 is bullsh*t excuse and it&#8217;s getting old. PS3 version could be delayed 2-3 weeks for that, not 6 months! </p>
<p>The fault could be Rockstar&#8217;s own. Developing such a big game for two very different platforms can give any developer a difficulties. People who saw the game in action (running on the 360) said the framerate was terrible - another reason to the contrary why 360 could be responsible, just as much as we&#8217;d like to speculate the PS3 version was not ready.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the delay helps gamers. There&#8217;s so many great games coming this holiday season anyway! I don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;m gonna afford all of them, so I can live without GTA for a while if it means I can get an improved game when I have the time and money to play it.</p>
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		<title>By: WALTER D. ULTIMO</title>
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		<dc:creator>WALTER D. ULTIMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were to belief that prolonging the game could result in higher liquid assets than I would have delayed the title, but thats not the case here, because there is only one competition to GTAIV (Halo 3) and the demands for both games are very high. Therefore, christmas its the most demanding time to introduce any games. Foolish of Rockstar to delay the title? Possibilities are not because it was too hard to develop for neither system, nor because of binding contracts, but rather that they gotten paid off by MS mainly due to the company getting rid off the core and introducing all knew 360's with hardrives, which will make the game first HD requirement with a higher market for Rockstart and all remaining stock of core system sold out. Rockstart will be happy due to the cash cow (paid off)and more time to develop with a hard drive and MS can said that Hallo 3 was a beast in sales during the christmas period and in early Feb. will announced that there is no more core 360 and that there is requirement to play GTAIV, SO doubletime to your nearest walmart and buy yourself an hd if you dont have one. A win situation for both companies and EL Chipo gets screwed, due to ignorance or lack of funds. Heyyyyy! viva 360 and stick me until I bleed the ROD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were to belief that prolonging the game could result in higher liquid assets than I would have delayed the title, but thats not the case here, because there is only one competition to GTAIV (Halo 3) and the demands for both games are very high. Therefore, christmas its the most demanding time to introduce any games. Foolish of Rockstar to delay the title? Possibilities are not because it was too hard to develop for neither system, nor because of binding contracts, but rather that they gotten paid off by MS mainly due to the company getting rid off the core and introducing all knew 360&#8217;s with hardrives, which will make the game first HD requirement with a higher market for Rockstart and all remaining stock of core system sold out. Rockstart will be happy due to the cash cow (paid off)and more time to develop with a hard drive and MS can said that Hallo 3 was a beast in sales during the christmas period and in early Feb. will announced that there is no more core 360 and that there is requirement to play GTAIV, SO doubletime to your nearest walmart and buy yourself an hd if you dont have one. A win situation for both companies and EL Chipo gets screwed, due to ignorance or lack of funds. Heyyyyy! viva 360 and stick me until I bleed the ROD.</p>
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		<title>By: RjC2fp</title>
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		<dc:creator>RjC2fp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be possible they decided to hold it off until after the release of mgs4 and a possible surge of ps3 sales because rockstar would rather see sony excel instead of microsoft (as it seems M$ is getting the worst out of this), after all. Aren't sony and rockstar getting a little tighter these days with them decideing to make new exclusives for ps3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be possible they decided to hold it off until after the release of mgs4 and a possible surge of ps3 sales because rockstar would rather see sony excel instead of microsoft (as it seems M$ is getting the worst out of this), after all. Aren&#8217;t sony and rockstar getting a little tighter these days with them decideing to make new exclusives for ps3?</p>
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		<title>By: calderra</title>
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		<dc:creator>calderra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halo 3 = September 25.
GTAIV could have released in October, November, or December and dodged the Halo 3 hype. San Andreas did, and it did very well.

Halo 3 has nothing to do with the delay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halo 3 = September 25.<br />
GTAIV could have released in October, November, or December and dodged the Halo 3 hype. San Andreas did, and it did very well.</p>
<p>Halo 3 has nothing to do with the delay.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it's the hard drive issue. There have been rumors for a long time that T2 and R* would require it to run as planned. In addition, Penny Arcade, GamePro, and XF all said future xbox games will require the HDD.

Link to source
http://www.xboxfamily.com/news%20stories/HDD_Required.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it&#8217;s the hard drive issue. There have been rumors for a long time that T2 and R* would require it to run as planned. In addition, Penny Arcade, GamePro, and XF all said future xbox games will require the HDD.</p>
<p>Link to source<br />
<a href="http://www.xboxfamily.com/news%20stories/HDD_Required.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.xboxfamily.com/news%20stories/HDD_Required.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: M4I0N3</title>
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		<dc:creator>M4I0N3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to: IIIBTW 

Nope, i dont know whether rockstar may consider it but we'll have to wait and see, fingers crossed</description>
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<p>Nope, i dont know whether rockstar may consider it but we&#8217;ll have to wait and see, fingers crossed</p>
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		<title>By: Ales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don't buy it. Why would they miss out on the christmas sales because of halo3?

There is enough consumer demand this xmas to fill both those titles and delaying it to march where sales start slowing down is not the way to go.

I prefer the rumour that it's a development issue with either of the consoles rather than this.

This makes less sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t buy it. Why would they miss out on the christmas sales because of halo3?</p>
<p>There is enough consumer demand this xmas to fill both those titles and delaying it to march where sales start slowing down is not the way to go.</p>
<p>I prefer the rumour that it&#8217;s a development issue with either of the consoles rather than this.</p>
<p>This makes less sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: IIIBTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>IIIBTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M4I0N3

That would be sweet. Have you heard anything about that?</description>
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<p>That would be sweet. Have you heard anything about that?</p>
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		<title>By: M4I0N3</title>
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		<dc:creator>M4I0N3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the game has been delayed, ive been thinking whether they'd make a demo for gta iv, to make up for the delay. It would be cool if they were bringing it out, since Saints Row did release a demo of their game last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the game has been delayed, ive been thinking whether they&#8217;d make a demo for gta iv, to make up for the delay. It would be cool if they were bringing it out, since Saints Row did release a demo of their game last year.</p>
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		<title>By: rogue01</title>
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		<dc:creator>rogue01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't buy the whole release date because of Halo 3. If H3 was released in Sept. then why not release GTA4 in Nov. or Dec. that's enough time for Halo sales to slow down. Anyway, i don't really care since i'm not buying GTA4 anyhow. Just my 2 cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy the whole release date because of Halo 3. If H3 was released in Sept. then why not release GTA4 in Nov. or Dec. that&#8217;s enough time for Halo sales to slow down. Anyway, i don&#8217;t really care since i&#8217;m not buying GTA4 anyhow. Just my 2 cents</p>
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		<title>By: FrankOZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankOZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya know, i was of the belief that it had to do with the 360 HD but after reading this i am willing to consider anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya know, i was of the belief that it had to do with the 360 HD but after reading this i am willing to consider anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IIIBTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>IIIBTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This makes the most sense. GTA IV is supposed to be a huge hit for T2 and Rockstar, maybe they figured it would be best to delay the release and get the most bang for their buck rather than go head to head with Halo 3.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have to believe a game like GTA and a company like Rockstar would find the resources needed to finish the game on time if they felt it was in their best interest.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes the most sense. GTA IV is supposed to be a huge hit for T2 and Rockstar, maybe they figured it would be best to delay the release and get the most bang for their buck rather than go head to head with Halo 3.</p>
<p>You have to believe a game like GTA and a company like Rockstar would find the resources needed to finish the game on time if they felt it was in their best interest.</p>
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