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	<title>Comments on: Fired Nintendo Blogger Speaks Her Mind &#8211; An Interview with Jessica Zenner</title>
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		<title>By: KENNY RAY CARR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KENNY RAY CARR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey can you write pograms for music??  kenny ray carr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey can you write pograms for music??  kenny ray carr</p>
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		<title>By: FATTUNEMPLOYEDCHIK</title>
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		<dc:creator>FATTUNEMPLOYEDCHIK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the case, there was no &quot;justifiable reason&quot; for firing MS Carr.  The only way I could see them firing her if she stated what she just stated during this interview on her blog and I don&#039;t see anyone being that stupid. lol. No Nintendo really needs to issue an apology on this one. Freedom of speech is dead even if the speech was never accusatory in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the case, there was no &#8220;justifiable reason&#8221; for firing MS Carr.  The only way I could see them firing her if she stated what she just stated during this interview on her blog and I don&#8217;t see anyone being that stupid. lol. No Nintendo really needs to issue an apology on this one. Freedom of speech is dead even if the speech was never accusatory in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever-ishere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever-ishere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the GREAT post! Very useful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the GREAT post! Very useful&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DragonKnight24</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonKnight24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lordcancer: Nice interview. We need more people like this.

@pseudonymkrealle: Yes, I did digress of the overall page topic, but the comments had done so long ago so, I just went with the flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lordcancer: Nice interview. We need more people like this.</p>
<p>@pseudonymkrealle: Yes, I did digress of the overall page topic, but the comments had done so long ago so, I just went with the flow.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym Krealle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudonym Krealle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one friend, whom I still consider a friend, and I am 100% positive that he/she didn’t leak it. To clear the air, I never logged on to my blog or checked my personal email at work. To be honest, I have no clue how they found my blog. When I asked how they found my blog, they responded with “that doesn’t matter”.

Doesn&#039;t sound like she told many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one friend, whom I still consider a friend, and I am 100% positive that he/she didn’t leak it. To clear the air, I never logged on to my blog or checked my personal email at work. To be honest, I have no clue how they found my blog. When I asked how they found my blog, they responded with “that doesn’t matter”.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t sound like she told many people.</p>
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		<title>By: reni</title>
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		<dc:creator>reni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jess

I think it is funny that you find it easy to lie to the world about how and why you were fired. You shouldn&#039;t tell coworkers about your blog and not expect backlash. What you said was mean and hurtful. You deserved everything you got.  You lack respect, ethics and integrity.  Shame on you.</description>
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<p>I think it is funny that you find it easy to lie to the world about how and why you were fired. You shouldn&#8217;t tell coworkers about your blog and not expect backlash. What you said was mean and hurtful. You deserved everything you got.  You lack respect, ethics and integrity.  Shame on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym Krealle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudonym Krealle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you make a valid point dragonknight24, but that digresses from the topic of the article- this is more of an issue of freedom of expression outside of the workplace than it is about videogames.

My stance is that while a blog is a public medium, there should be freedom of expression in blogging to say what you want to say. And in NO circumstance should a person be fired about a personal issue such as the one in this situation without approaching the person first.

It sounds like Mrs Zenner is doing alright despite what happened to her, but that doesn&#039;t change the issue of what happened to her at Nintendo because of her blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you make a valid point dragonknight24, but that digresses from the topic of the article- this is more of an issue of freedom of expression outside of the workplace than it is about videogames.</p>
<p>My stance is that while a blog is a public medium, there should be freedom of expression in blogging to say what you want to say. And in NO circumstance should a person be fired about a personal issue such as the one in this situation without approaching the person first.</p>
<p>It sounds like Mrs Zenner is doing alright despite what happened to her, but that doesn&#8217;t change the issue of what happened to her at Nintendo because of her blog.</p>
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		<title>By: LordCancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordCancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey DragonKnight24

Check this interview out with senator leland yee, I thought it was an informative interview.

He acknowledges that games are not primary contributing factors to violence, but can contribute to already demented individuals.

I also like that he supports adult only games and was generally supportive of the industry but keeping the violent stuff out of kids 
hands. 

http://www.gamealmighty.com/story-individual/story/The_Anti_Gamer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey DragonKnight24</p>
<p>Check this interview out with senator leland yee, I thought it was an informative interview.</p>
<p>He acknowledges that games are not primary contributing factors to violence, but can contribute to already demented individuals.</p>
<p>I also like that he supports adult only games and was generally supportive of the industry but keeping the violent stuff out of kids<br />
hands. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.gamealmighty.com/story-individual/story/The_Anti_Gamer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gamealmighty.com/story-individual/story/The_Anti_Gamer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DragonKnight24</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonKnight24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDIT: I meant to say *there&#039;s*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDIT: I meant to say *there&#8217;s*.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonKnight24</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonKnight24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good thing that I know that she doesn&#039;t seriously believe that the psychotic people shooting up schools and the like are doing so because of games, because I&#039;m seriously tired of all the Jack Thomspon wannabe&#039;s trying to push their own agendas or acting out their frustrations at their pathetic lives.

A video game doesn&#039;t make a person a psychotic killer, it&#039;s not even a catalyst. Said person already had issues. But a scapegoat is needed, and one needs to be found quickly. So why not pick on the least professionally accepted medium? Hollywood and the Music industries don&#039;t consider gaming to be a serious form of media, yet when their&#039;s a problem, it&#039;s all gaming&#039;s fault.

I really wish all these political/parental whiners would find a hobby and leave ours alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing that I know that she doesn&#8217;t seriously believe that the psychotic people shooting up schools and the like are doing so because of games, because I&#8217;m seriously tired of all the Jack Thomspon wannabe&#8217;s trying to push their own agendas or acting out their frustrations at their pathetic lives.</p>
<p>A video game doesn&#8217;t make a person a psychotic killer, it&#8217;s not even a catalyst. Said person already had issues. But a scapegoat is needed, and one needs to be found quickly. So why not pick on the least professionally accepted medium? Hollywood and the Music industries don&#8217;t consider gaming to be a serious form of media, yet when their&#8217;s a problem, it&#8217;s all gaming&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>I really wish all these political/parental whiners would find a hobby and leave ours alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym Krealle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudonym Krealle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she has a point. She&#039;s not saying that we have guns and are going to go on killing sprees, necessarily. I do think gamers have taken on aspects from the games they play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she has a point. She&#8217;s not saying that we have guns and are going to go on killing sprees, necessarily. I do think gamers have taken on aspects from the games they play.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Snipehunter

I don&#039;t really feel that way about all games. Lol, I was just trying to sound cliche in a suburban house wife sort of way. At the end of that statement, I said, &quot;In all seriousness...&quot;. 

Anyway, I hope that you like the site, and continue to visit us here a Ripten. Take Care.
 
-Jess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Snipehunter</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really feel that way about all games. Lol, I was just trying to sound cliche in a suburban house wife sort of way. At the end of that statement, I said, &#8220;In all seriousness&#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>Anyway, I hope that you like the site, and continue to visit us here a Ripten. Take Care.</p>
<p>-Jess</p>
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		<title>By: Snipehunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snipehunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s something of a shame there - here is a person that many people in that culture (the gaming culture) wanted to support, but she&#039;s essentially marginalizing them in her very first interview answer.  As a result she marginalizes their thoughts of the real issues:  Protected speech and the appalling acts of employee &quot;ownership&quot; that corporations such as Nintendo and many others commit all the time.

 Her opinion is hers and I would never dream of faulting her for having one, but having worked in this industry for a very, very long time and having seen where it&#039;s come from and where it&#039;s going, I have to say that I find her conclusions totally unfounded.  Gamers today just aren&#039;t out there emulating or taking on the behaviors in the games they see...

At least, the primary market isn&#039;t, perhaps with Nintendo&#039;s noteable efforts to find new markets, they&#039;ve exposed her to the questionable folks in the global culture who emulate all violent and distasteful media they see.  Perhaps she&#039;s lost sight of the fact that games don&#039;t exist in a vacuum outside of other media - but rather are simply one small aspect of the constant bombardment of media we all experience, every day.

It&#039;s a shame she had to make it sound like that&#039;s a games only thing.  Bad people behave badly, and yes they often do find their inspiration in what they see and hear, but there&#039;s a lot more out there to see and hear than video games... things like.. blogs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s something of a shame there &#8211; here is a person that many people in that culture (the gaming culture) wanted to support, but she&#8217;s essentially marginalizing them in her very first interview answer.  As a result she marginalizes their thoughts of the real issues:  Protected speech and the appalling acts of employee &#8220;ownership&#8221; that corporations such as Nintendo and many others commit all the time.</p>
<p> Her opinion is hers and I would never dream of faulting her for having one, but having worked in this industry for a very, very long time and having seen where it&#8217;s come from and where it&#8217;s going, I have to say that I find her conclusions totally unfounded.  Gamers today just aren&#8217;t out there emulating or taking on the behaviors in the games they see&#8230;</p>
<p>At least, the primary market isn&#8217;t, perhaps with Nintendo&#8217;s noteable efforts to find new markets, they&#8217;ve exposed her to the questionable folks in the global culture who emulate all violent and distasteful media they see.  Perhaps she&#8217;s lost sight of the fact that games don&#8217;t exist in a vacuum outside of other media &#8211; but rather are simply one small aspect of the constant bombardment of media we all experience, every day.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame she had to make it sound like that&#8217;s a games only thing.  Bad people behave badly, and yes they often do find their inspiration in what they see and hear, but there&#8217;s a lot more out there to see and hear than video games&#8230; things like.. blogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Video Game Media Watch - The Video Game Journalism Review &#187; Zenner Speaks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video Game Media Watch - The Video Game Journalism Review &#187; Zenner Speaks</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Kirk on the October 9th, 2007     In case you haven’t heard the story of Jessica Zenner yet, an interview is up with the former Nintendo employee at Ripten.com, providing her side of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym Krealle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudonym Krealle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are fired from jobs relatively routinely because of behavior like Mrs Zenner&#039;s. There are three reasons why this particular event has attracted so much press.

1) It relates to the gaming industry, which in turn relates to a hotbed (or not :P) of nerds who, if exposed and with some motivation, get upset by things easily and have access and knowledge of the &quot;internets.&quot;

2) Mrs Zenner is attractive; I am qualified as a human being to say that, because if you disagree, that&#039;s stupid. People like pretty women, and her good looks provide motivation for the nerds who are easily upset.

3) This story relates to an important and new social issue revolving around the question, &quot;How personal are online interactions?&quot; 

To that third reason, Mrs Zenner&#039;s firing is unfortunate and an example of one side of the question, but is a drop in the bucket, except a  much more publicized drop.

As for the comments made, Zenner&#039;s response to the third question asking why gaming companies use open source software is informed, as she is/was  an insider in the gaming development community, and as for the rest of it, she&#039;s more informed that the rest of us Non-Computer Science BAs. 

It&#039;s 2:40 and that last chunk didn&#039;t make a huge amount of sense.

To the rest of y&#039;all out there, look past the incident here and give a thought to the bigger picture (see reason 3).

To Mrs Zenner, condolences for the crap you&#039;ve gotten from your former employer and now from a bunch of random anonymous people online. Congratulations on your new job with ripten.

To Mrs Zenner&#039;s husband prayers from a humanist, for whatever its worth, congrats on your new job. 

Pseudonym Krealle,
University of Portland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are fired from jobs relatively routinely because of behavior like Mrs Zenner&#8217;s. There are three reasons why this particular event has attracted so much press.</p>
<p>1) It relates to the gaming industry, which in turn relates to a hotbed (or not :P) of nerds who, if exposed and with some motivation, get upset by things easily and have access and knowledge of the &#8220;internets.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) Mrs Zenner is attractive; I am qualified as a human being to say that, because if you disagree, that&#8217;s stupid. People like pretty women, and her good looks provide motivation for the nerds who are easily upset.</p>
<p>3) This story relates to an important and new social issue revolving around the question, &#8220;How personal are online interactions?&#8221; </p>
<p>To that third reason, Mrs Zenner&#8217;s firing is unfortunate and an example of one side of the question, but is a drop in the bucket, except a  much more publicized drop.</p>
<p>As for the comments made, Zenner&#8217;s response to the third question asking why gaming companies use open source software is informed, as she is/was  an insider in the gaming development community, and as for the rest of it, she&#8217;s more informed that the rest of us Non-Computer Science BAs. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s 2:40 and that last chunk didn&#8217;t make a huge amount of sense.</p>
<p>To the rest of y&#8217;all out there, look past the incident here and give a thought to the bigger picture (see reason 3).</p>
<p>To Mrs Zenner, condolences for the crap you&#8217;ve gotten from your former employer and now from a bunch of random anonymous people online. Congratulations on your new job with ripten.</p>
<p>To Mrs Zenner&#8217;s husband prayers from a humanist, for whatever its worth, congrats on your new job. </p>
<p>Pseudonym Krealle,<br />
University of Portland</p>
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		<title>By: hamburgers101</title>
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		<dc:creator>hamburgers101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lordcancer
Excellent use of debating technique; I especially liked your rebuttal of crazeesquirrel&#039;s thoroughly ad hominem attack, which did nothing to disprove your claims.  If not for your subsequent fall into incoherence, I&#039;d have stopped scrolling down after reading through your comment, since I am admittedly inclined to believe the worst in people if they show indications of &#039;bad character&#039; or a lack of what I would call &#039;common&#039; sense.  Then again, I am conceited enough to think that my sense therewith is uncommonly good.

@engineerjim
As expected of a true fan of Square&#039;s series(though that has nothing to do with anything), you very reasonably and amicably presented your thoughts (to which I wholeheartedly agree, especially regarding the xbox), proceeding to brush off the trolls, the result being that you have left your mark in a dignified manner.  Hear, hear!

@Jessica, you&#039;re effing gorgeous(call me! ^^;), and that&#039;s really all I have to judge you by, so I will not pass judgment on you, not only since it&#039;s not my place to do so and a lack of information therewith, but also because I haven&#039;t got the time, ironically enough.  Heh. 

Then again, that&#039;s not the case (regarding time) for the guys over at Penny Arcade, whom I wholeheartedly admire for their finely-tuned BS detecting abilities
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/05

Have I contradicted myself in what I have said?  I certainly hope so, since that&#039;s my hallmark.  So feel free to lambast me for my inaccuracies, inadequacies, and otherwise fallacies; it will only make me feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lordcancer<br />
Excellent use of debating technique; I especially liked your rebuttal of crazeesquirrel&#8217;s thoroughly ad hominem attack, which did nothing to disprove your claims.  If not for your subsequent fall into incoherence, I&#8217;d have stopped scrolling down after reading through your comment, since I am admittedly inclined to believe the worst in people if they show indications of &#8216;bad character&#8217; or a lack of what I would call &#8216;common&#8217; sense.  Then again, I am conceited enough to think that my sense therewith is uncommonly good.</p>
<p>@engineerjim<br />
As expected of a true fan of Square&#8217;s series(though that has nothing to do with anything), you very reasonably and amicably presented your thoughts (to which I wholeheartedly agree, especially regarding the xbox), proceeding to brush off the trolls, the result being that you have left your mark in a dignified manner.  Hear, hear!</p>
<p>@Jessica, you&#8217;re effing gorgeous(call me! ^^;), and that&#8217;s really all I have to judge you by, so I will not pass judgment on you, not only since it&#8217;s not my place to do so and a lack of information therewith, but also because I haven&#8217;t got the time, ironically enough.  Heh. </p>
<p>Then again, that&#8217;s not the case (regarding time) for the guys over at Penny Arcade, whom I wholeheartedly admire for their finely-tuned BS detecting abilities<br />
<a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/05" rel="nofollow">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/05</a></p>
<p>Have I contradicted myself in what I have said?  I certainly hope so, since that&#8217;s my hallmark.  So feel free to lambast me for my inaccuracies, inadequacies, and otherwise fallacies; it will only make me feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: LordCancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordCancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DragonKnight24

I accept and agree that we should move past the initial incident.

I would like to point out that I am not an aspiring journalist for the record and I do not have anything against Jessica being one.

While your right we do not know all the facts about Nintendos policies or how Jessica accorded herself while employed. I still however draw the conclusion from what is known that she had greater role in the events then she lets on to and at the very least I do not think she made a convincing argument about the comments she was accused to have made in her blog, claiming that said comments were merely fiction.

I also do not think that Nintendo actively monitors employees private lives, rather that said comments in her blog were brought to an executives attention by someone who likely found them offensive.

On the topic that Nintendo need specifically address an anti-blog policy, I imagine that whatever contract she did sign had some form of clause about how she is to represent the company.  I would also imagine that there is some form of decorum she is to uphold in her work place that would include being respectful to her superiors which I at least think would include not making defamatory statements about your boss or co-workers.

I gather from an outside point of view that Nintendo is very strict and likely many of there policy&#039;s are probably Japanese oriented. If a Nintendo employed developer told Miyamato to go screw himself in person or on a blog I think he would also be out of a job.


If she doesn&#039;t have respect for her employer then she shouldn&#039;t be working there.  The supposed fictional comments were obviously capable of being construed to be more then fiction, but like you say I can&#039;t possibly know if her superior lady boss did in fact have an hairy upper lip.

Was it Nintedno that released those? I&#039;m not sure but there are a few comments out there to be found.  I find it suspicious that she deleted the comments and I do not find her explanation that is ultimately a denial of any wrong doing sufficient.

I thing she acted out of turn and Nintendo has a right to protect its image and fire her.  Jessica Zenner is probably better of as a writer in the end, if her first piece is anything to judge by she is going to be a controversial writer and I like her writing style.

I however do not think her right to free speech was impeded, I don&#039;t think the story deserved as much attention as it received espeacially as its not game related.

I feel it was a staged pr event to attract readers to this site where she is now employed or at least offered a venue to distribute her work.

I am obviously a bit disgruntled over the affair, but its all water under the bridge ultimately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DragonKnight24</p>
<p>I accept and agree that we should move past the initial incident.</p>
<p>I would like to point out that I am not an aspiring journalist for the record and I do not have anything against Jessica being one.</p>
<p>While your right we do not know all the facts about Nintendos policies or how Jessica accorded herself while employed. I still however draw the conclusion from what is known that she had greater role in the events then she lets on to and at the very least I do not think she made a convincing argument about the comments she was accused to have made in her blog, claiming that said comments were merely fiction.</p>
<p>I also do not think that Nintendo actively monitors employees private lives, rather that said comments in her blog were brought to an executives attention by someone who likely found them offensive.</p>
<p>On the topic that Nintendo need specifically address an anti-blog policy, I imagine that whatever contract she did sign had some form of clause about how she is to represent the company.  I would also imagine that there is some form of decorum she is to uphold in her work place that would include being respectful to her superiors which I at least think would include not making defamatory statements about your boss or co-workers.</p>
<p>I gather from an outside point of view that Nintendo is very strict and likely many of there policy&#8217;s are probably Japanese oriented. If a Nintendo employed developer told Miyamato to go screw himself in person or on a blog I think he would also be out of a job.</p>
<p>If she doesn&#8217;t have respect for her employer then she shouldn&#8217;t be working there.  The supposed fictional comments were obviously capable of being construed to be more then fiction, but like you say I can&#8217;t possibly know if her superior lady boss did in fact have an hairy upper lip.</p>
<p>Was it Nintedno that released those? I&#8217;m not sure but there are a few comments out there to be found.  I find it suspicious that she deleted the comments and I do not find her explanation that is ultimately a denial of any wrong doing sufficient.</p>
<p>I thing she acted out of turn and Nintendo has a right to protect its image and fire her.  Jessica Zenner is probably better of as a writer in the end, if her first piece is anything to judge by she is going to be a controversial writer and I like her writing style.</p>
<p>I however do not think her right to free speech was impeded, I don&#8217;t think the story deserved as much attention as it received espeacially as its not game related.</p>
<p>I feel it was a staged pr event to attract readers to this site where she is now employed or at least offered a venue to distribute her work.</p>
<p>I am obviously a bit disgruntled over the affair, but its all water under the bridge ultimately.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonKnight24</title>
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		<dc:creator>DragonKnight24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@engineer Jim: I never felt that you belittled me in anyway, far from it. Your response was the form of civility that you hope to see in other responses. If I acted a little over zealous, it&#039;s because I&#039;m a little biased in issues like these because of a friend I have who is an aspiring gaming journalist. I promised to help her with her work (no, it&#039;s not Jessica) and I know that there are people who will act like this, even to her. I detest unwarranted attacks on a person&#039;s work. Criticism doesn&#039;t have to be harsh, it can be constructive.

@LordCancer: I apologize if I offended you. I say that we just forget this incident and start over. In response to your comment on this article, I&#039;d like to make a few points.

First, no one knows for certain that she was insulting her co-workers, only she knows that. But, as we all know, that is completely irrelevant in the corporate world. So long as the possibility of hurt feelings and bad PR exists, especially for a company like Nintendo who prides themselves on their image, any form of speech will be harshly censored and the writer dealt with in a manner that the PR department deems necessary.

I personally don&#039;t believe that a person&#039;s personal blog should be grounds for termination UNLESS said person named names. If it is clearly a vague work, and can be seen as fiction, then that&#039;s just one of the many reasons Nintendo was wrong to fire her for a blog.

Among other things, if Nintendo did not present all of their employees with either a contract to sign, or a clearly defined stipulation in the employee hadnbook, that expressly forbids blogging about said employees work, they are in the wrong for terminating her. In many States, and here in Canada, such a termination could result in the employee lodging a complaint with the Labor Board and being victorious.

Not knowing whether or not Nintendo presented her with a contract or a clearly defined handbook passage forbidding this, we can&#039;t judge her for her actions, especially since she was not aware that she was being watched for this after supposedly performing well in her duties and not giving rise to suspiscion.

It&#039;s a mark of bad form on Nintendo&#039;s part to not inform their employees that they WILL be monitored at random, and that they may NOT make personal blogs about the company.

We are all entitled to our opinions, employee or not. Last I checked, America was not a Communist Dictatorship where one couldn&#039;t speak their mind.

Bottom line, if Nintendo didn&#039;t tell her she couldn&#039;t, then they had no right to fire her for something she didn&#039;t know was wrong until they made up the rule. But that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@engineer Jim: I never felt that you belittled me in anyway, far from it. Your response was the form of civility that you hope to see in other responses. If I acted a little over zealous, it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a little biased in issues like these because of a friend I have who is an aspiring gaming journalist. I promised to help her with her work (no, it&#8217;s not Jessica) and I know that there are people who will act like this, even to her. I detest unwarranted attacks on a person&#8217;s work. Criticism doesn&#8217;t have to be harsh, it can be constructive.</p>
<p>@LordCancer: I apologize if I offended you. I say that we just forget this incident and start over. In response to your comment on this article, I&#8217;d like to make a few points.</p>
<p>First, no one knows for certain that she was insulting her co-workers, only she knows that. But, as we all know, that is completely irrelevant in the corporate world. So long as the possibility of hurt feelings and bad PR exists, especially for a company like Nintendo who prides themselves on their image, any form of speech will be harshly censored and the writer dealt with in a manner that the PR department deems necessary.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t believe that a person&#8217;s personal blog should be grounds for termination UNLESS said person named names. If it is clearly a vague work, and can be seen as fiction, then that&#8217;s just one of the many reasons Nintendo was wrong to fire her for a blog.</p>
<p>Among other things, if Nintendo did not present all of their employees with either a contract to sign, or a clearly defined stipulation in the employee hadnbook, that expressly forbids blogging about said employees work, they are in the wrong for terminating her. In many States, and here in Canada, such a termination could result in the employee lodging a complaint with the Labor Board and being victorious.</p>
<p>Not knowing whether or not Nintendo presented her with a contract or a clearly defined handbook passage forbidding this, we can&#8217;t judge her for her actions, especially since she was not aware that she was being watched for this after supposedly performing well in her duties and not giving rise to suspiscion.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mark of bad form on Nintendo&#8217;s part to not inform their employees that they WILL be monitored at random, and that they may NOT make personal blogs about the company.</p>
<p>We are all entitled to our opinions, employee or not. Last I checked, America was not a Communist Dictatorship where one couldn&#8217;t speak their mind.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if Nintendo didn&#8217;t tell her she couldn&#8217;t, then they had no right to fire her for something she didn&#8217;t know was wrong until they made up the rule. But that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: LordCancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordCancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Travis R

&quot;If you don’t even have enough respect for the company that pays your bills to be a little concerned with, and invest in maintaining their image, why should they invest further in you?&quot;
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I am completely with you on this and its particularly why I don&#039;t think it is a free speech issue because her right to say anything wasn&#039;t impeding her right to work, but her lack of respect and common decency towards her colleagues is the problem that lead to her termination.

You can&#039;t go to work with a nonchalant attitude, insult whoever you like and not expect there to be consequence whether those consequence result in more infighting and personal attacks levied against her or the boss fires you for inappropriate behavior.

Her behavior towards her colleagues was abusive it doesn&#039;t matter that it wasn&#039;t at work. she made comments in a public forum where her co-workers and the world could read them and when shes found out she deletes the comments. 

I think she is defiantly in the wrong and if she believed she had a right to say those things then why bury them under rhetoric of free speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Travis R</p>
<p>&#8220;If you don’t even have enough respect for the company that pays your bills to be a little concerned with, and invest in maintaining their image, why should they invest further in you?&#8221;<br />
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<p>I am completely with you on this and its particularly why I don&#8217;t think it is a free speech issue because her right to say anything wasn&#8217;t impeding her right to work, but her lack of respect and common decency towards her colleagues is the problem that lead to her termination.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t go to work with a nonchalant attitude, insult whoever you like and not expect there to be consequence whether those consequence result in more infighting and personal attacks levied against her or the boss fires you for inappropriate behavior.</p>
<p>Her behavior towards her colleagues was abusive it doesn&#8217;t matter that it wasn&#8217;t at work. she made comments in a public forum where her co-workers and the world could read them and when shes found out she deletes the comments. </p>
<p>I think she is defiantly in the wrong and if she believed she had a right to say those things then why bury them under rhetoric of free speech?</p>
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		<title>By: Travis R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; And Travis R, as far as association goes, you cannot refuse to hire or fire someone due to their fame/notoriety, or specific opinions or beliefs they possess, ie if the owner of a company happens to have certain political beliefs they can’t fire you for not sharing them. This seems like a clear case of wrongful termination to me, &quot;

Actually, this is completely untrue. A company can refuse to hire you for whatever reason they choose if they find you unfit for the position. I daresay that unwanted notoriety would certainly be a detriment to a recruiter for a company, the first face someone sees to represent your company when they are hired. Yeah, I think I might want someone with a good, or at least neutral reputation in that position. As for the political beliefs comment, if you made your political beliefs public in a deliberately inflammatory way in a public forum, and in a manner that belied your company&#039;s desired public image, then yes, they can fire you for that, and quite certainly *should*. 

If you don&#039;t even have enough respect for the company that pays your bills to be a little concerned with, and invest in maintaining their image, why should they invest further in you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; And Travis R, as far as association goes, you cannot refuse to hire or fire someone due to their fame/notoriety, or specific opinions or beliefs they possess, ie if the owner of a company happens to have certain political beliefs they can’t fire you for not sharing them. This seems like a clear case of wrongful termination to me, &#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, this is completely untrue. A company can refuse to hire you for whatever reason they choose if they find you unfit for the position. I daresay that unwanted notoriety would certainly be a detriment to a recruiter for a company, the first face someone sees to represent your company when they are hired. Yeah, I think I might want someone with a good, or at least neutral reputation in that position. As for the political beliefs comment, if you made your political beliefs public in a deliberately inflammatory way in a public forum, and in a manner that belied your company&#8217;s desired public image, then yes, they can fire you for that, and quite certainly *should*. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t even have enough respect for the company that pays your bills to be a little concerned with, and invest in maintaining their image, why should they invest further in you?</p>
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