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	<title>Comments on: Ripten Rant: PS3 Users Don&#8217;t Need an In-Game XMB</title>
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		<title>By: car</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-262693</link>
		<dc:creator>car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks for the great post</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Hibbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The XMB is the existing interface so why would they design something completely different - of course we need it!

I could possibly count from the past a time when I would have liked to have been able to get back to the XMB for a different feature (each time) without QUITTING the game.

If it&#039;s possible, it&#039;s welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The XMB is the existing interface so why would they design something completely different &#8211; of course we need it!</p>
<p>I could possibly count from the past a time when I would have liked to have been able to get back to the XMB for a different feature (each time) without QUITTING the game.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s possible, it&#8217;s welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-31626</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chat is all I care about because with chat you can at least tell someone to get there arse into whatever game you want them to play then you invite them into your server or whatever.

In game music because I hate the music included in most games and since my ps3 is plugged to my massively amazing audio system that can unfortunately only play from 1 sound source at a time so it must be the ps3 outputting the music.

Would like the xmb in game so I could browse internet while playing a single player game and pausing it or watch a vid or something. But that one is less important.


Really I don&#039;t see why its so hard to do isn&#039;t 1 core of the cell processor + 64mb ram used only for the xmb (even in game) why is it hard to make the ps button switch XMB on in game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chat is all I care about because with chat you can at least tell someone to get there arse into whatever game you want them to play then you invite them into your server or whatever.</p>
<p>In game music because I hate the music included in most games and since my ps3 is plugged to my massively amazing audio system that can unfortunately only play from 1 sound source at a time so it must be the ps3 outputting the music.</p>
<p>Would like the xmb in game so I could browse internet while playing a single player game and pausing it or watch a vid or something. But that one is less important.</p>
<p>Really I don&#8217;t see why its so hard to do isn&#8217;t 1 core of the cell processor + 64mb ram used only for the xmb (even in game) why is it hard to make the ps button switch XMB on in game?</p>
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		<title>By: seiber</title>
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		<dc:creator>seiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with all these people for it i sold my xbox 360 to buy a ps3 and i would like to be able to do the same things i could do on it also i hope you can join games in progress like the 360 but i doubt its gonna happen but atleast we will be able to chat and other things and we meed to access settings when my blu tooth dies and i need to connect another headset i dont wanna exit the game sony hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with all these people for it i sold my xbox 360 to buy a ps3 and i would like to be able to do the same things i could do on it also i hope you can join games in progress like the 360 but i doubt its gonna happen but atleast we will be able to chat and other things and we meed to access settings when my blu tooth dies and i need to connect another headset i dont wanna exit the game sony hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-30532</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you agree with me.</description>
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		<title>By: AzN_SeNzAtIoN</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-30523</link>
		<dc:creator>AzN_SeNzAtIoN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wel i&#039;ll tell you what we do need, we need in game messaging because what if your telling some1 to go the lobby in a game, instead of going out of the game, sending, going back in and if they reply, you go back out, send reply and over and over.

and we just plain want music, and other crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wel i&#8217;ll tell you what we do need, we need in game messaging because what if your telling some1 to go the lobby in a game, instead of going out of the game, sending, going back in and if they reply, you go back out, send reply and over and over.</p>
<p>and we just plain want music, and other crap.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the in-game music, messaging and chatting, all the IMPORTANT stuff should be rolled into one big package for the next update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the in-game music, messaging and chatting, all the IMPORTANT stuff should be rolled into one big package for the next update.</p>
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		<title>By: lakdjflkj</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-18210</link>
		<dc:creator>lakdjflkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever play SOCOM? I want ingame website browsing... ingame ps store access... so i have something to do when i die, or so my teammates can get on a website and coordinate plans of attack. I do everything now with my computer next to my ps2, but having it all built in would be nice for those without a PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever play SOCOM? I want ingame website browsing&#8230; ingame ps store access&#8230; so i have something to do when i die, or so my teammates can get on a website and coordinate plans of attack. I do everything now with my computer next to my ps2, but having it all built in would be nice for those without a PC.</p>
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		<title>By: w00t</title>
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		<dc:creator>w00t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really find it hard to believe that Sony is daft enough not to realize that Messaging is what we truly want.  How could they be that dumb?  Although I agree with it, this rant was a waste of your breath.  Sony is going to do what they please, surely they already know that messaging would be sufficient...To find out what fans want all they&#039;d have to do was employ 1 guy to scour the forums/fan websites and with a little bit of weeding he&#039;d easily know what we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really find it hard to believe that Sony is daft enough not to realize that Messaging is what we truly want.  How could they be that dumb?  Although I agree with it, this rant was a waste of your breath.  Sony is going to do what they please, surely they already know that messaging would be sufficient&#8230;To find out what fans want all they&#8217;d have to do was employ 1 guy to scour the forums/fan websites and with a little bit of weeding he&#8217;d easily know what we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Mentality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - nuff said.</description>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-11686</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No we want it all sorted out at once or it will never be finished knowing Sony.</description>
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		<title>By: Mousti-man</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-9610</link>
		<dc:creator>Mousti-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kickback: I know what you mean, but really, who is going to need to play videos in-game? Music in game would be great, but thats an extra feature. We want to get the basics sorted out first (ie, in-game messaging and in-game settings) before you move on to the non-needed extras. Or else it could be monthes before we get even the basics sorted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kickback: I know what you mean, but really, who is going to need to play videos in-game? Music in game would be great, but thats an extra feature. We want to get the basics sorted out first (ie, in-game messaging and in-game settings) before you move on to the non-needed extras. Or else it could be monthes before we get even the basics sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-9573</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I think its stupid for you to complain about something you yourself do not mind, you make it seem like you DONT want an in game xmb at all, and if Sony hear contrasting view then they will probably do nothing at all (you surely know sonys poor reputation for keeping promises).
&quot;Sony is spending so much time making sure that an in-game XMB is perfect&quot; this is EXACTLY what we want for a change, a well made, complete update. Not some half arsed 5 minute jobby just to shut the impatient people like up and never see the xmb completed, infact judging by sonys past we would be lucky to get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I think its stupid for you to complain about something you yourself do not mind, you make it seem like you DONT want an in game xmb at all, and if Sony hear contrasting view then they will probably do nothing at all (you surely know sonys poor reputation for keeping promises).<br />
&#8220;Sony is spending so much time making sure that an in-game XMB is perfect&#8221; this is EXACTLY what we want for a change, a well made, complete update. Not some half arsed 5 minute jobby just to shut the impatient people like up and never see the xmb completed, infact judging by sonys past we would be lucky to get that.</p>
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		<title>By: ICE</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8956</link>
		<dc:creator>ICE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im in the home beta dont worry there is ingame xmb like in RFOM but u can get it from anywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im in the home beta dont worry there is ingame xmb like in RFOM but u can get it from anywhere</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8948</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surely we need the XMB to get into ps home and stuff like that.
Also another good point of this is that it would pretty much end the possibility of xbox users rationally being able to argue that the 360 is better, as it would mean the xbox 360 would now have pretty much no features absent from the ps3 (except parental control??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely we need the XMB to get into ps home and stuff like that.<br />
Also another good point of this is that it would pretty much end the possibility of xbox users rationally being able to argue that the 360 is better, as it would mean the xbox 360 would now have pretty much no features absent from the ps3 (except parental control??)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Al and Eddie</description>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 110% all we basically need is in-game messaging and chat.  I can wait for the other stuff really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 110% all we basically need is in-game messaging and chat.  I can wait for the other stuff really.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8158</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely correct. No need for any other functions of the XMB - just messaging.

Would be nice if you could issue invites to your current game using this messaging system as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely correct. No need for any other functions of the XMB &#8211; just messaging.</p>
<p>Would be nice if you could issue invites to your current game using this messaging system as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping the comments coming, it&#039;s very interesting to see the two very different view points, but they still appear to really want the same things.

Ryan: Thanks, that&#039;s good to hear.  This article is more about Sony misunderstanding what gamers want.

One possibility which I haven&#039;t tackled here, is that it is actually the ingame messaging that is holding back the implementation of the whole ingame XMB.  

This could be possible since the keyboard takes up so much memory.  But with Resistance and Timeshift approximating to ingame messaging, I think this is unlikely to be the main problem for Sony holding back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping the comments coming, it&#8217;s very interesting to see the two very different view points, but they still appear to really want the same things.</p>
<p>Ryan: Thanks, that&#8217;s good to hear.  This article is more about Sony misunderstanding what gamers want.</p>
<p>One possibility which I haven&#8217;t tackled here, is that it is actually the ingame messaging that is holding back the implementation of the whole ingame XMB.  </p>
<p>This could be possible since the keyboard takes up so much memory.  But with Resistance and Timeshift approximating to ingame messaging, I think this is unlikely to be the main problem for Sony holding back.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, now it just needs to get around the playstation community.  I think I&#039;m going to send this article to them and give them my 2 cents as well.  Someone posted the link on the sony blog and thats how I got here.

The big thing is we all know that we need in-game messaging but, in that process we started calling it in-game xmb I&#039;m guessing. Those who are saying we need in-game xmb are probably thinking about messaging and not all this other crap you&#039;re talking about (at least I hope not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, now it just needs to get around the playstation community.  I think I&#8217;m going to send this article to them and give them my 2 cents as well.  Someone posted the link on the sony blog and thats how I got here.</p>
<p>The big thing is we all know that we need in-game messaging but, in that process we started calling it in-game xmb I&#8217;m guessing. Those who are saying we need in-game xmb are probably thinking about messaging and not all this other crap you&#8217;re talking about (at least I hope not).</p>
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