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	<title>Comments on: Ripten Rant: PS3 Users Don&#8217;t Need an In-Game XMB</title>
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		<title>By: car</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-262693</link>
		<dc:creator>car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thanks for the great post</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Hibbs</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-34037</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Hibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The XMB is the existing interface so why would they design something completely different - of course we need it!

I could possibly count from the past a time when I would have liked to have been able to get back to the XMB for a different feature (each time) without QUITTING the game.

If it&#039;s possible, it&#039;s welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The XMB is the existing interface so why would they design something completely different &#8211; of course we need it!</p>
<p>I could possibly count from the past a time when I would have liked to have been able to get back to the XMB for a different feature (each time) without QUITTING the game.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s possible, it&#8217;s welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-31626</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chat is all I care about because with chat you can at least tell someone to get there arse into whatever game you want them to play then you invite them into your server or whatever.

In game music because I hate the music included in most games and since my ps3 is plugged to my massively amazing audio system that can unfortunately only play from 1 sound source at a time so it must be the ps3 outputting the music.

Would like the xmb in game so I could browse internet while playing a single player game and pausing it or watch a vid or something. But that one is less important.


Really I don&#039;t see why its so hard to do isn&#039;t 1 core of the cell processor + 64mb ram used only for the xmb (even in game) why is it hard to make the ps button switch XMB on in game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chat is all I care about because with chat you can at least tell someone to get there arse into whatever game you want them to play then you invite them into your server or whatever.</p>
<p>In game music because I hate the music included in most games and since my ps3 is plugged to my massively amazing audio system that can unfortunately only play from 1 sound source at a time so it must be the ps3 outputting the music.</p>
<p>Would like the xmb in game so I could browse internet while playing a single player game and pausing it or watch a vid or something. But that one is less important.</p>
<p>Really I don&#8217;t see why its so hard to do isn&#8217;t 1 core of the cell processor + 64mb ram used only for the xmb (even in game) why is it hard to make the ps button switch XMB on in game?</p>
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		<title>By: seiber</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-31376</link>
		<dc:creator>seiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with all these people for it i sold my xbox 360 to buy a ps3 and i would like to be able to do the same things i could do on it also i hope you can join games in progress like the 360 but i doubt its gonna happen but atleast we will be able to chat and other things and we meed to access settings when my blu tooth dies and i need to connect another headset i dont wanna exit the game sony hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with all these people for it i sold my xbox 360 to buy a ps3 and i would like to be able to do the same things i could do on it also i hope you can join games in progress like the 360 but i doubt its gonna happen but atleast we will be able to chat and other things and we meed to access settings when my blu tooth dies and i need to connect another headset i dont wanna exit the game sony hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-30532</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you agree with me.</description>
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		<title>By: AzN_SeNzAtIoN</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-30523</link>
		<dc:creator>AzN_SeNzAtIoN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wel i&#039;ll tell you what we do need, we need in game messaging because what if your telling some1 to go the lobby in a game, instead of going out of the game, sending, going back in and if they reply, you go back out, send reply and over and over.

and we just plain want music, and other crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wel i&#8217;ll tell you what we do need, we need in game messaging because what if your telling some1 to go the lobby in a game, instead of going out of the game, sending, going back in and if they reply, you go back out, send reply and over and over.</p>
<p>and we just plain want music, and other crap.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-20520</link>
		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the in-game music, messaging and chatting, all the IMPORTANT stuff should be rolled into one big package for the next update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the in-game music, messaging and chatting, all the IMPORTANT stuff should be rolled into one big package for the next update.</p>
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		<title>By: lakdjflkj</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-18210</link>
		<dc:creator>lakdjflkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever play SOCOM? I want ingame website browsing... ingame ps store access... so i have something to do when i die, or so my teammates can get on a website and coordinate plans of attack. I do everything now with my computer next to my ps2, but having it all built in would be nice for those without a PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever play SOCOM? I want ingame website browsing&#8230; ingame ps store access&#8230; so i have something to do when i die, or so my teammates can get on a website and coordinate plans of attack. I do everything now with my computer next to my ps2, but having it all built in would be nice for those without a PC.</p>
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		<title>By: w00t</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-2/#comment-18187</link>
		<dc:creator>w00t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really find it hard to believe that Sony is daft enough not to realize that Messaging is what we truly want.  How could they be that dumb?  Although I agree with it, this rant was a waste of your breath.  Sony is going to do what they please, surely they already know that messaging would be sufficient...To find out what fans want all they&#039;d have to do was employ 1 guy to scour the forums/fan websites and with a little bit of weeding he&#039;d easily know what we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really find it hard to believe that Sony is daft enough not to realize that Messaging is what we truly want.  How could they be that dumb?  Although I agree with it, this rant was a waste of your breath.  Sony is going to do what they please, surely they already know that messaging would be sufficient&#8230;To find out what fans want all they&#8217;d have to do was employ 1 guy to scour the forums/fan websites and with a little bit of weeding he&#8217;d easily know what we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Mentality</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-13287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - nuff said.</description>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-11686</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No we want it all sorted out at once or it will never be finished knowing Sony.</description>
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		<title>By: Mousti-man</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-9610</link>
		<dc:creator>Mousti-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kickback: I know what you mean, but really, who is going to need to play videos in-game? Music in game would be great, but thats an extra feature. We want to get the basics sorted out first (ie, in-game messaging and in-game settings) before you move on to the non-needed extras. Or else it could be monthes before we get even the basics sorted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kickback: I know what you mean, but really, who is going to need to play videos in-game? Music in game would be great, but thats an extra feature. We want to get the basics sorted out first (ie, in-game messaging and in-game settings) before you move on to the non-needed extras. Or else it could be monthes before we get even the basics sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-9573</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also I think its stupid for you to complain about something you yourself do not mind, you make it seem like you DONT want an in game xmb at all, and if Sony hear contrasting view then they will probably do nothing at all (you surely know sonys poor reputation for keeping promises).
&quot;Sony is spending so much time making sure that an in-game XMB is perfect&quot; this is EXACTLY what we want for a change, a well made, complete update. Not some half arsed 5 minute jobby just to shut the impatient people like up and never see the xmb completed, infact judging by sonys past we would be lucky to get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I think its stupid for you to complain about something you yourself do not mind, you make it seem like you DONT want an in game xmb at all, and if Sony hear contrasting view then they will probably do nothing at all (you surely know sonys poor reputation for keeping promises).<br />
&#8220;Sony is spending so much time making sure that an in-game XMB is perfect&#8221; this is EXACTLY what we want for a change, a well made, complete update. Not some half arsed 5 minute jobby just to shut the impatient people like up and never see the xmb completed, infact judging by sonys past we would be lucky to get that.</p>
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		<title>By: ICE</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8956</link>
		<dc:creator>ICE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im in the home beta dont worry there is ingame xmb like in RFOM but u can get it from anywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im in the home beta dont worry there is ingame xmb like in RFOM but u can get it from anywhere</p>
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		<title>By: kickback</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8948</link>
		<dc:creator>kickback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surely we need the XMB to get into ps home and stuff like that.
Also another good point of this is that it would pretty much end the possibility of xbox users rationally being able to argue that the 360 is better, as it would mean the xbox 360 would now have pretty much no features absent from the ps3 (except parental control??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely we need the XMB to get into ps home and stuff like that.<br />
Also another good point of this is that it would pretty much end the possibility of xbox users rationally being able to argue that the 360 is better, as it would mean the xbox 360 would now have pretty much no features absent from the ps3 (except parental control??)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8250</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Al and Eddie</description>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 110% all we basically need is in-game messaging and chat.  I can wait for the other stuff really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 110% all we basically need is in-game messaging and chat.  I can wait for the other stuff really.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8158</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely correct. No need for any other functions of the XMB - just messaging.

Would be nice if you could issue invites to your current game using this messaging system as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely correct. No need for any other functions of the XMB &#8211; just messaging.</p>
<p>Would be nice if you could issue invites to your current game using this messaging system as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8142</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping the comments coming, it&#039;s very interesting to see the two very different view points, but they still appear to really want the same things.

Ryan: Thanks, that&#039;s good to hear.  This article is more about Sony misunderstanding what gamers want.

One possibility which I haven&#039;t tackled here, is that it is actually the ingame messaging that is holding back the implementation of the whole ingame XMB.  

This could be possible since the keyboard takes up so much memory.  But with Resistance and Timeshift approximating to ingame messaging, I think this is unlikely to be the main problem for Sony holding back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping the comments coming, it&#8217;s very interesting to see the two very different view points, but they still appear to really want the same things.</p>
<p>Ryan: Thanks, that&#8217;s good to hear.  This article is more about Sony misunderstanding what gamers want.</p>
<p>One possibility which I haven&#8217;t tackled here, is that it is actually the ingame messaging that is holding back the implementation of the whole ingame XMB.  </p>
<p>This could be possible since the keyboard takes up so much memory.  But with Resistance and Timeshift approximating to ingame messaging, I think this is unlikely to be the main problem for Sony holding back.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, now it just needs to get around the playstation community.  I think I&#039;m going to send this article to them and give them my 2 cents as well.  Someone posted the link on the sony blog and thats how I got here.

The big thing is we all know that we need in-game messaging but, in that process we started calling it in-game xmb I&#039;m guessing. Those who are saying we need in-game xmb are probably thinking about messaging and not all this other crap you&#039;re talking about (at least I hope not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, now it just needs to get around the playstation community.  I think I&#8217;m going to send this article to them and give them my 2 cents as well.  Someone posted the link on the sony blog and thats how I got here.</p>
<p>The big thing is we all know that we need in-game messaging but, in that process we started calling it in-game xmb I&#8217;m guessing. Those who are saying we need in-game xmb are probably thinking about messaging and not all this other crap you&#8217;re talking about (at least I hope not).</p>
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		<title>By: Vohaul79</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8135</link>
		<dc:creator>Vohaul79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this person that in game &quot;XMB&quot; is retarded and mostly pointless...but whats going on is everyone has called it &quot;In game XMB&quot; and all they really mean is &quot;Custom music in game&quot; and &quot;In Game Text / Chat&quot; and yes he&#039;s wrong about the browser (it would be nice for GameFAQ if it came to that but hey, thats why we have an iPhone : )

1- Text and Chat for the online boys
2- In game custom music (after moving from my 360 to a PS3 Tiger Woods stinks not being able to stream some of my own tunes in while I golf.
3- In game browser would be nice, but not life ending NOT to have it.

Just include these options in the textual menu when you hit the PS button..In game XMB is not really what we are after..After a while you could even change that text list into a graphical interface Sony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this person that in game &#8220;XMB&#8221; is retarded and mostly pointless&#8230;but whats going on is everyone has called it &#8220;In game XMB&#8221; and all they really mean is &#8220;Custom music in game&#8221; and &#8220;In Game Text / Chat&#8221; and yes he&#8217;s wrong about the browser (it would be nice for GameFAQ if it came to that but hey, thats why we have an iPhone : )</p>
<p>1- Text and Chat for the online boys<br />
2- In game custom music (after moving from my 360 to a PS3 Tiger Woods stinks not being able to stream some of my own tunes in while I golf.<br />
3- In game browser would be nice, but not life ending NOT to have it.</p>
<p>Just include these options in the textual menu when you hit the PS button..In game XMB is not really what we are after..After a while you could even change that text list into a graphical interface Sony!</p>
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		<title>By: Mousti-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mousti-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want 2 things in-game and thats it. Messaging and adjusting my audio input settings. Too many times a mate a sent me an urgent message during a clan match. Too many times, my headset has died and I&#039;m not able to configure it so I can talk through my PS Eye.   Not essential, but very annoying, and as the above people have said, it should have been in it, straight from the box, especially as how much the PS3 was delayed from its original date in ALL regions. What were they doing??? But I&#039;m not worried too much, as long as I have Warhawk and Uncharted, I&#039;m a fairly happy gamer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want 2 things in-game and thats it. Messaging and adjusting my audio input settings. Too many times a mate a sent me an urgent message during a clan match. Too many times, my headset has died and I&#8217;m not able to configure it so I can talk through my PS Eye.   Not essential, but very annoying, and as the above people have said, it should have been in it, straight from the box, especially as how much the PS3 was delayed from its original date in ALL regions. What were they doing??? But I&#8217;m not worried too much, as long as I have Warhawk and Uncharted, I&#8217;m a fairly happy gamer.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No i want it, I want to surf the net while im playing so i can look up codes, hints cheats. I want to check on the status of my downloads. I know many people who have to change resolutions or sound profiles in game. Its a pain in the Arse to quit the game, let it load up again. Hit continue, sit through the BS get to get back to where you were. IF you were lucky to save there. I dont need the whole XMB (in fact it would be dangerous i think for some things) But i want all of that and what you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No i want it, I want to surf the net while im playing so i can look up codes, hints cheats. I want to check on the status of my downloads. I know many people who have to change resolutions or sound profiles in game. Its a pain in the Arse to quit the game, let it load up again. Hit continue, sit through the BS get to get back to where you were. IF you were lucky to save there. I dont need the whole XMB (in fact it would be dangerous i think for some things) But i want all of that and what you said.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragis:  Surely you can see that I&#039;m partially agreeing with.  Yes Sony is delaying everything, and very important things.  They are doing it because they want the features to be perfect and holistic.  

My point is that they could stop this and give us one much needed/wanted feature earlier than they can/intend to.

DemSum:  That was a passionate speech, and then some!  You know I agree with you don&#039;t you?  Yes we should have the things we want, and don&#039;t just need.  Sony should surprise us...and we should have all the options from the XMB.  It&#039;s just about getting one important feature before the rest, and getting the message very clear to Sony, because a lot of their market research is via the internet.

Their recent poll actually shows that people want custom soundtracks over ingame messaging, and I think this is wrong.  Plus, that they are asking people for one or the other - is worrying.

BW: Thanks for your comment.  Those do seem like problems that could be annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragis:  Surely you can see that I&#8217;m partially agreeing with.  Yes Sony is delaying everything, and very important things.  They are doing it because they want the features to be perfect and holistic.  </p>
<p>My point is that they could stop this and give us one much needed/wanted feature earlier than they can/intend to.</p>
<p>DemSum:  That was a passionate speech, and then some!  You know I agree with you don&#8217;t you?  Yes we should have the things we want, and don&#8217;t just need.  Sony should surprise us&#8230;and we should have all the options from the XMB.  It&#8217;s just about getting one important feature before the rest, and getting the message very clear to Sony, because a lot of their market research is via the internet.</p>
<p>Their recent poll actually shows that people want custom soundtracks over ingame messaging, and I think this is wrong.  Plus, that they are asking people for one or the other &#8211; is worrying.</p>
<p>BW: Thanks for your comment.  Those do seem like problems that could be annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: BW</title>
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		<dc:creator>BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually you&#039;re completely wrong, I *do* want in-game XMB because games are very, very spotty about what settings they&#039;ll allow you to change, and if I need to switch from my bluetooth headset to a USB mic - for instance, if the battery in the headset died - I may not be able to do that without quitting out, like in Warhawk for instance, where you can&#039;t change audio settings in-game at all.

And if I run out of HD space - which is quite plausable on these newer PS3s with the smaller drives, and space-hog games like Oblivion - I want to be able to delete files without losing my *current* game state. In-game XMB would make that possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually you&#8217;re completely wrong, I *do* want in-game XMB because games are very, very spotty about what settings they&#8217;ll allow you to change, and if I need to switch from my bluetooth headset to a USB mic &#8211; for instance, if the battery in the headset died &#8211; I may not be able to do that without quitting out, like in Warhawk for instance, where you can&#8217;t change audio settings in-game at all.</p>
<p>And if I run out of HD space &#8211; which is quite plausable on these newer PS3s with the smaller drives, and space-hog games like Oblivion &#8211; I want to be able to delete files without losing my *current* game state. In-game XMB would make that possible.</p>
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		<title>By: DemSum</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8108</link>
		<dc:creator>DemSum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your such a dusch, love you tell people WHAT they need. One thing you don&#039;t want to tell consumers is what they need. If the buyer wants something give it to them. Its not about that I don&#039;t need to browse the internet while im playing again its about having the OPTION to. Maybe I want to check out something on the net while im playing the game and dont want to quit the game at the same time. Maybe I&#039;m playing a game and all of a sudden I want to pause it and show a friend a video I downloaded on the net but dont want to quit my game. Its about having the option, so if sony is willing to do it let them. I want the option to not just cause some guy doing an article says we dont NEED this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your such a dusch, love you tell people WHAT they need. One thing you don&#8217;t want to tell consumers is what they need. If the buyer wants something give it to them. Its not about that I don&#8217;t need to browse the internet while im playing again its about having the OPTION to. Maybe I want to check out something on the net while im playing the game and dont want to quit the game at the same time. Maybe I&#8217;m playing a game and all of a sudden I want to pause it and show a friend a video I downloaded on the net but dont want to quit my game. Its about having the option, so if sony is willing to do it let them. I want the option to not just cause some guy doing an article says we dont NEED this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2007/12/05/ripten-rant-ps3-users-dont-need-an-in-game-xmb/comment-page-1/#comment-8097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I don&#039;t need a XMB in games. Because I don&#039;t need a lot of things. LIKE VIDEO GAMES. Apparently, Sony also thinks we don&#039;t need a good variety of console exclusives before Christmas either. Oh I hear the fan boys already. Well sock it, because I&#039;ve been defending the system since day one, and it&#039;s getting pretty bloody old. 

But that&#039;s MY FAULT? I&#039;M to blame for SONY taking their sweet time with PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING? Let&#039;s talk about home and how crucial that is, according to every Sony employee and his mum. And how it&#039;s been pushed back by months. I know that it seems like if anything is worth waiting for these days, chances are that is the case and you will end up waiting longer than you&#039;d like to, but I guess Sony&#039;s policy is that everything they are doing and will ever do is ground shattering because NOTHING they&#039;re associated with is ever done in a timely manner as of late. 

In summation, no. You&#039;re the fatty. Fatty fat fat fat-head. Why don&#039;t you cry yourself to sleep on your tear and ketchup-stained pillow. Fatty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I don&#8217;t need a XMB in games. Because I don&#8217;t need a lot of things. LIKE VIDEO GAMES. Apparently, Sony also thinks we don&#8217;t need a good variety of console exclusives before Christmas either. Oh I hear the fan boys already. Well sock it, because I&#8217;ve been defending the system since day one, and it&#8217;s getting pretty bloody old. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s MY FAULT? I&#8217;M to blame for SONY taking their sweet time with PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING? Let&#8217;s talk about home and how crucial that is, according to every Sony employee and his mum. And how it&#8217;s been pushed back by months. I know that it seems like if anything is worth waiting for these days, chances are that is the case and you will end up waiting longer than you&#8217;d like to, but I guess Sony&#8217;s policy is that everything they are doing and will ever do is ground shattering because NOTHING they&#8217;re associated with is ever done in a timely manner as of late. </p>
<p>In summation, no. You&#8217;re the fatty. Fatty fat fat fat-head. Why don&#8217;t you cry yourself to sleep on your tear and ketchup-stained pillow. Fatty.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ryan, Soong, Nerfgun: It seems people have a loss of reading abilities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look to the original text&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;To me this is obvious, and it may also be to you and I’m sorry if I’m about to patronise you with subtleties, but somehow I think that what I’m about to say might be a revolution to those muppets at Sony.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m quite aware that you ALL know that ingame XMB MEANS ingame messaging, what I doubt is that Sony understands this.  And nerfgun, I really wouldn&#039;t be surprised since it&#039;s taken so long, AND they are giving these possiblities to developers (so they CAN do ingame messaging now) but not doing an overarching system, and that&#039;s why I layed it out here.  I don&#039;t think we should have to wait for a full blown ingame XMB for this (or even custom soundtracks which HVBowling has)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;phantom, Andrew: I also agree that we want all these other things, but getting ingame messaging is a must that we should have got by itself a LONG time ago.  Just like we&#039;ve got with the TimeShift demo.  There it is, all by itself...and I&#039;d be very happy if we had that option over all of our games.&lt;/p&gt;
However, this is an opinion piece, and so the nature of it means that not everyone will agree.  I&#039;m all up for a debate, and so I take all your opinions into consideration. Intead of perhaps arguing/insulting me, let&#039;s debate and disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, Soong, Nerfgun: It seems people have a loss of reading abilities.</p>
<p>Look to the original text</p>
<p>&#8220;To me this is obvious, and it may also be to you and I’m sorry if I’m about to patronise you with subtleties, but somehow I think that what I’m about to say might be a revolution to those muppets at Sony.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite aware that you ALL know that ingame XMB MEANS ingame messaging, what I doubt is that Sony understands this.  And nerfgun, I really wouldn&#8217;t be surprised since it&#8217;s taken so long, AND they are giving these possiblities to developers (so they CAN do ingame messaging now) but not doing an overarching system, and that&#8217;s why I layed it out here.  I don&#8217;t think we should have to wait for a full blown ingame XMB for this (or even custom soundtracks which HVBowling has)</p>
<p>phantom, Andrew: I also agree that we want all these other things, but getting ingame messaging is a must that we should have got by itself a LONG time ago.  Just like we&#8217;ve got with the TimeShift demo.  There it is, all by itself&#8230;and I&#8217;d be very happy if we had that option over all of our games.</p>
<p>However, this is an opinion piece, and so the nature of it means that not everyone will agree.  I&#8217;m all up for a debate, and so I take all your opinions into consideration. Intead of perhaps arguing/insulting me, let&#8217;s debate and disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ nerfgun. 
of*course* we&#039;re getting a mini XMB. 
why are we never getting a fully functional ingame XMB? how would you know? people want it, and somewhat need it. 
and if sony could just make it possible overnight, they would. they just cant do it that easily. that&#039;s why we dont even have a mini XMB yet. over time, i believe a fully functional ingame XMB will be intergrated through a FW update. be it in months, or years. 

@ Cavin. 
where did you hear the on screen keyboard takes up that much memory? 
im not saying you&#039;re wrong, i just wanna check it out too if you can provide me with a link. sounds odd that the PS3, in all its glory, are having problems with a damn on screen keyboard ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ nerfgun.<br />
of*course* we&#8217;re getting a mini XMB.<br />
why are we never getting a fully functional ingame XMB? how would you know? people want it, and somewhat need it.<br />
and if sony could just make it possible overnight, they would. they just cant do it that easily. that&#8217;s why we dont even have a mini XMB yet. over time, i believe a fully functional ingame XMB will be intergrated through a FW update. be it in months, or years. </p>
<p>@ Cavin.<br />
where did you hear the on screen keyboard takes up that much memory?<br />
im not saying you&#8217;re wrong, i just wanna check it out too if you can provide me with a link. sounds odd that the PS3, in all its glory, are having problems with a damn on screen keyboard ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ soong.
how would you know what other people likes/wants?? i, for one, do not want ingame XMB mainly because of messaging, etc. 
i DO want the ingame XMB for easy access to video/internet/photo/music/etc. 
alot of people in here share that point of view. heck, &quot;even&quot; patric steen does ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ soong.<br />
how would you know what other people likes/wants?? i, for one, do not want ingame XMB mainly because of messaging, etc.<br />
i DO want the ingame XMB for easy access to video/internet/photo/music/etc.<br />
alot of people in here share that point of view. heck, &#8220;even&#8221; patric steen does ^^</p>
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