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It’s fun to compare consoles, especially when the comparison involves one of the biggest games of this generation. Grand Theft Auto IV has been littered with websites giving their opinions on which version looks best. Surprisingly, most had no inkling of each version’s native resolution.

Eurogamer are the first to speculate that GTA IV on the PS3 runs at 630p. When in fact, it doesn’t… It runs at 640p.

Yes, GTA IV on the PS3 is sub-HD. And if it couldn’t be any more ironic (the traditionally Playstation series runs at a lower resolution) it has the same resolution as Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 – perhaps the first game to receive the sub-HD back-lash.

The man who spilt the news? The now infamous Quaz51 of Beyond3d technical forums. PS3 GTA IV runs at 640p with 0xAA, in comparison to the Xbox 360 version at 720p with 2xAA.

Eurogamer, who base almost all their multi-platform comparisons on Quaz51’s findings, were using opinions from B3D’s technical wizard before he had received a reliable PS3 screenshot. In receipt of a high-res shot, Quaz51 had this to say:

Good news [...] it’s 1152×640p (and no AA) exactly like Halo 3, Perfect Dark [Zero] or Dark Sector PS3.

The resolution itself is unsurprising, but the side by side comparisons carried out by numerous websites tell a more complex story. For example, in IGN’s head to head, the PS3’s Anti-Aliasing is cited as being the better of the two versions, even though the Xbox 360 has 2xAA. This could be due to the upscaling and post-processing effects smoothing the edges on the PS3.

In their review, IGN continues to state that due to the PS3’s mandatory install there is less loading and less pop-in than on the Xbox 360:

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don’t worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don’t occur very often.

In another nod to differences between the two versions, EGM mentions that the “PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp.” You’d think the Xbox 360’s higher resolution would facilitate the sharper look.

Native resolution, thus, appears to have less of an impact than we might have first thought. At least, you are more likely to notice indirect differences, than the lower resolution itself. For example, upscaling on the PS3 appears to have some positive graphical results, which may explain why some websites say it looks better. Eurogamer’s Rich Leadbetter hypothesises:

It’s worth noting that due to the post-processing effects the game employs (there’s a serious amount of stuff being done to the raw frame), the PS3’s lower resolution serves to mask a lot of the nasty after effects.

For example, look at the dithering on the signs in the background on those shots. A bit ugly on Xbox 360, but smoothed and blurred away on PS3, presenting a generally nicer look.

In the end, what really matters is that both versions run extremely well and at an almost locked framerate. There are certainly differences on paper, but many will find it difficult to notice them in the game:

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Which version of GTA IV should you buy? Due to the game’s impressive multiplayer – buy the version where your friends reside, because you could potentially spend hundreds of hours duking it out online.

       
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  • I knew this would happen.. now all we need is to hear the sony fanboy explanations about how the ps3 is superior and the developers are lazy/stupid/incompetent/etc.
  • TheMan
    Ummm, why repeat something that you already know.
  • BeefStew
    @ DavidGX

    Um... u saying that makes u sound like a fanboy. idk if u read the whole thing, but it also compliments the ps3 version pointing out how each version has its ups and downs. And even though yes, the ps3 is technically visually inferior, you wont notice much of a diff and in some cases it looks better on the ps3
  • Adam
    why DavidGX? WHY?! don't you trolls ever get tired? Did you actually read the article or did you just read the headline and slap a "{PS3fans are stoopidz" comment on it? to fill you in, it says THE DIFFERENCES ARE SO MINIMAL THAT IT DOESNT MATTER, buy it on your console of choice, enjoy it and qfts!
  • cell
    Well I got the PS3 version, and Im happily enjoying it on my 46" 1080P Bravia, 7.1 surround sound system. I had to adjust the contrast in the in-game setting to my liking, besides that the game looks awesome. I can care less what XBOTS say about this I am genuinely enjoying this game and I have no complaints with my PS3.
  • sesho
    Why the need of an excuse ? However you look at it , a (ported) game running at an inferior resolution on ps3 ends up looking as good or according to some superior , to a higher resolution 360 version .

    IF anything took a blow i'd say its the higher res version , and to boot the lead platform ...

    God , fanboys from both sides are annoying...
  • Mark
    Patrick Sheen. You need to learn to write better. "The resolution itself is unsurprising since the game was ported from the Xbox 360,"

    It's not a port as they were simulatenously developed. And the lead was the PS3. It could also be that the lead is 360, but that doesn't make it a PORT. Get your definitions write.

    Ripten = fail.
  • "Um… u saying that makes u sound like a fanboy. idk if u"

    And you're spelling makes you sound like an idiot.

    "why DavidGX? WHY?! don’t you trolls ever get tired?"

    And how, exactly, am I trolling? I'm simply responding to the boatloads of sony fanboy trolls that still insist the ps3 is more powerful than the 360.
  • Death
    That's because the PS3 IS more powerful... Not that you would know or care.
  • Syugo
    "And how, exactly, am I trolling? I’m simply responding to the boatloads of sony fanboy trolls that still insist the ps3 is more powerful than the 360."

    How does this relate to the article. Noone was going to say anything like that until you had to go and ruin it.

    As said before there are ups and downs, and R* probably did it for a reason. Does this make it any better or worse on either systems? No. Did anyone expect it to be better in either systems? No. Are we still going to have a shitload of fun otherwise? Yesssssir.
  • Firelogic
    The PS3 is more powerful. If it wasn't, why doesn't Forza look like GT5:P? Why are there zero games that even come close to MGS4? The power of the system isn't what's in question here because the game wasn't built soley for the PS3. The bottomline is that it's running at a lower resolution and no AA and yet it still looks better than the 360 version running at 720 with 2xAA. Rockstar obviously used more post processing effects on the PS3 version while taking down the resolution a little so why didn't they do the same for the 360? Why didn't they apply the same effects on the 360 at 720p or at the same 640 res as the PS3? Maybe because it's just not capable? Maybe the only way to make it look serviceable was to sacrifice the effects and ratchet up the resolution to try and compensate?
  • Lolcr
    How's the 360 superior?

    PS3 GTA IV runs at 640p with 0xAA, in comparison to the Xbox 360 version at 720p with 2xAA.

    If you ask me, it's interesting how the PS3 has less resolution, no AA and still looks the same as 360 and even some experts were saying that sometimes it looks better. That really says a lot.
  • cjrix
    i knew that, ps3 is not as powerful as people think.. time will talk...!!
  • LC
    @davidgx what would jesus do? lol
  • Tom
    Hey DavidGX - there's only one person on here who sounds like a fanboy.

    "now all we need is to hear the sony fanboy explanations about how the ps3 is superior and the developers are lazy/stupid/incompetent/etc." - this is trolling: you're looking to start an argument and you're taking the easiest route possible.
  • Patrick Steen

    Mark: You are correct, I used the wrong term. I did mean to say that the Xbox 360 was the lead development platform. On further inspection, it appears there was no lead platform, they were both developed by different teams, and so different decisions were made. It wouldn't be wrong to say that the 360 team was more familiar with their given hardware. The mistake has been amended. Thank you for pointing it out.


    "Get your definitions write."


    It's "right" not "write" ;)


    Mark=fail?

  • Wade Larson
    Oh noes! Flamewar is imminent!

    Also: Mark = Fail, because its Patrick Steen, not P. Sheen.
  • Disgruntled
    Doesn't matter how good the game looks if you can't play it. FIX THE FREEZING, ROCKSTAR!
  • madpuppy
    P. sheen....heh..
  • Patrick Steen
    >_<
  • Eirc E
    @DavidGX
    The Ps3 is the more powerful system, the 360 is beneath it and the Wii is at the bottom. But it doesn't matter, what matters is the games that are on the systems.
    P.S. I own all 3 and a gaming computer. I kinda know what I'm talking about, and learn the different meanings of your (not mine but yours)and you're (you are)
  • jake
    The most over used word refering to videogames fanboy...... come on if I read this word one more time i'm gonna freaking puke...
    come up with something original....... don't recycle everything you hear

    cattle...
    moooo moo fanboy
  • shamon
    i just played it on my brother 360 seeing how i have the ps3 one and he has the xbox 360 version which is the same thing i cant really tell the what diferent they both look and play the same . The ps3 one is a litter darker so i had to change the brightness and some of the edge's is cut off but thats it .
  • LC
    I bought the 360 special edition. I like the combat a lot more, however it took me a couple of hours to get my head around the car physics and I'm still not sure I like how they handle and for the life of me I can not corner in any of the 3rd person camera angles being as they are too low and awkwardly placed behind the car, but the fps car cam seems to translate better for me.

    Oh and bowling sucks...

    plus I think this story is largely irrelevant, no offense patrick. It's been my opinion that neither console really has the graphical horsepower or enough ram to do true hd resolutions with all the effects we expect.

    I pretty much expect to see more stories like this for the life of the systems, developers have to do what they have to do to get games running there best. If you had to choose from a few lost lines of resolutions to get your frames up or what have you then its a fair trade since noone realistically can tell the difference.

    I like knowing just the same but, in this case its largely irrelevant both versions are so alike that people should be deciding based on what console they own or which console there friends are on.

    I don't care about for pay dlc and if I'd had a ps3 at launch I'd have bought the ps3 version and my friends would have just had to buy playstations to play me or I would have played without them.

    Everyone should stop bitching about the consoles already, enjoy the last two years before the next gen systems launch or before you know it you'll all be telling us with ur fanboy authority that your next box is more powerful then my box all over again, seriously stfu already.
  • Patrick Steen
    LC: I respect your opinion and it's certainly not an offensive one to have!
  • Mike
    There´s no doubt that this game´s graphics is a F.. crap!! I´ve never saw such worst graphics in my ps3 on my LCD FullHD like this! What a shame Rockstar! :(
  • madpuppy
    Eirc E,

    you sound like me, I have the same setup as you a gaming rig, 360, ps3 and a wii. and you are right, as consoles go the ps3 is the most powerful then the 360 and wii. I have owned the 360 since release day (waiting outside the EB at 11:30 that cold night like an idiot for my preorder) and I love it. but I also love the PS3. the wii...ehh
    a cute machine for the kids.
    they all offer something different, crying like a little girl every time a game is developed differently on each system will go nowhere. if done right you develop to the strengths of each system and everybody benefits.
  • Patrick Steen

    Mike: That's clearly untrue - GTA4's graphics are extremely impressive for an open-world game, and it's even doing graphical effects that many linear games don't have.


    There are 10's of games that look worse on both the PS3 and Xbox 360.

  • Syugo
    All in all, I think this is WAY more derserving of all tens than any other previous games that had it this gen. Got the multiplat GotY award locked up, and if they are allowed to the 360 GotY award also.
  • shamon
    vice city and San Andreas spolied me musically... The selection is TERRIBLE in this game.


    While this game still gets a 10/10, the music and radio stations as a whole, are an incredible let-down for me....

    As a rap and metal fan, San Andreas was perfect, and had two entire stations built around what I loved... I also loved the all-classical channel, which put a great ironic soundtrack behind the chaos.

    This one? Pretty weak. 80 percent of the songs, I've never even heard of.,.. Like the alternative rock channel.... I love 1990's alternative rock, but has ANYONE heard of ANY of those songs?

    The only metal in there is an old-school Black Sabbath tune....

    I mean seriously...

    A jazz/fusion channel AND a jazz channel?Huh??

    Does anyone REALLY care about jazz that much?

    And an Eastern European channel? I realize they probably did that for the character, but it's a waste of space which could have been used for better music...

    Oh well, the reggae channel's still pretty cool...

    Outside of that MINOR detail though, this game is unbelievable...
  • John Robertson
    Couldn't disagree more with Shamon's comment about the music. I think this is the finest selection of tracks available so fair. You mention not liking the fusion channel, which is actually one of my favourites in the game (David McCallum's "The Edge" is particulary awesome). A lot of the tunes i haven't heard b4 but finding all this new stuff i enjoy is a welcome surprise, in an already great game. Also i hate metal (sorry Shamon) so i'm happy about the lack of it here.

    As music tastes are so subjective this is sure to be an area that people will debate over endlessly.
  • LC
    I do not particularly care for much of the soundtrack either, I am really disappointed that custom soundtracks are not supported. So far I have mostly listen to liberty rock but I am already getting tired of it, more and more I'm turning the music off.
  • Jonathan Zungre
    screw all you guys! i love how GTA4 plays on the game boy color!
  • Tom
    @Shamon - it's funny but when I first heard the jazz station, I was really pleased. I'm not sure that having a limited taste in music is really a good enough reason to criticise the game.

    As to the eastern European music channel - have you not noticed that it serves as the soundtrack for the game?
  • Hugues
    In fact I loved the Russian soundtrack and radio station, what a joy and what a change from the gangsta rap and heavy metal. Even the music styles I don't like have very good tracks. I didn't hear any run of the mill bad tracks so far.

    But I still feel the controls could be improved, they are not tight, and the camera angles are not very good too. The 640p issue is pretty frustrating for people with big tv, I think that doesn't deserve a 10 for graphics. OK so it's the best graphics for so called "sand box" games, but really there are games with higher resolution and anti-aliasing that does look better.
  • shamon
    I hope there a patch for custom music later .
  • Jonathan Zungre
    shamon, i was totally with you about the jazz station. but try this, listen to it in the morning and take a drive around the beach area. something about the sun rising with the jazz music is awesome. its a different feeling that i've ever gotten from a game.

    it really serves a different purpose than the rock stations. When you listen to the rock stations, you get pumped up for a mission. when you listen to the jazz, like the classical station from gta 3, you get relaxed to go kick some butt.
  • shamon
    I will try that also I really don't hate jazz that much.
  • LC
    I've now got the music volume turned down to off and am streaming music from my mp3 player, just have to pause during cut scenes and turn volume down or off.

    It's a bit annoying, more micro management but at least not as annoying as getting ringed on your cell every five minutes with some whiny jerk off complaining about me not calling them or what have you.

    With jacob I don't even have to turn it off, I can't understand him even with sub-titles on. On jacob missions I turn the volume up and just follow the gps and hope for the best.
  • pixelsword
    I find it funny how people want to laugh at the PS3 version of GTA IV for having below-HD, when logically, they should be laughing at the 360 because it looks worse than a SD game on the PS3.
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