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	<title>Comments on: Rumor: Quieter Xbox 360s Incoming</title>
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		<title>By: jdw</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-28431</link>
		<dc:creator>jdw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that you guys either bookmarked this page or had it send you replies so you could make yourselves feel important for five whole days over such a meaningless argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that you guys either bookmarked this page or had it send you replies so you could make yourselves feel important for five whole days over such a meaningless argument.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the BenQ drive has anything to do with it or not, I don&#039;t know. But mine&#039;s not loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the BenQ drive has anything to do with it or not, I don&#8217;t know. But mine&#8217;s not loud.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27853</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why you think the benq drive has anything to do with it, they are only slightly quieter then the others.

All of the 360 drives are loud. All the fans are loud, including the benq drive (which I also have), you can hear the damn thing spin. Every cd/dvd rom drive that spins that fast is audible and tiny 60mm fans are loud, your 360 isn&#039;t special. You are.

This article also ignores that fact, even if the fans spin slower, it does nothing to alleviate the drive noise and what does upgrading the gpu to a 65nm process gonna do to make the drives quieter?

    *  Near total silence - 0 dB
    * A whisper - 15 dB
    * Normal conversation - 60 dB
    * A lawnmower - 90 dB
    * A car horn - 110 dB
    * A rock concert or a jet engine - 120 dB
    * A gunshot or firecracker - 140 dB

If the 360 produces 60db (according to the article patrick linked) and you can&#039;t hear it then your deaf and should get your ears checked. 

Anything over 85db can cause hearing loss, so how much louder does the 360 need to be to be considered loud? Since your already hearing impaired, its irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you think the benq drive has anything to do with it, they are only slightly quieter then the others.</p>
<p>All of the 360 drives are loud. All the fans are loud, including the benq drive (which I also have), you can hear the damn thing spin. Every cd/dvd rom drive that spins that fast is audible and tiny 60mm fans are loud, your 360 isn&#8217;t special. You are.</p>
<p>This article also ignores that fact, even if the fans spin slower, it does nothing to alleviate the drive noise and what does upgrading the gpu to a 65nm process gonna do to make the drives quieter?</p>
<p>    *  Near total silence &#8211; 0 dB<br />
    * A whisper &#8211; 15 dB<br />
    * Normal conversation &#8211; 60 dB<br />
    * A lawnmower &#8211; 90 dB<br />
    * A car horn &#8211; 110 dB<br />
    * A rock concert or a jet engine &#8211; 120 dB<br />
    * A gunshot or firecracker &#8211; 140 dB</p>
<p>If the 360 produces 60db (according to the article patrick linked) and you can&#8217;t hear it then your deaf and should get your ears checked. </p>
<p>Anything over 85db can cause hearing loss, so how much louder does the 360 need to be to be considered loud? Since your already hearing impaired, its irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27849</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a troll I am, my playstation/nintendo/xbox/pc owning self. Such fanboyism towards.. uh.. everything.

My 360 has a BenQ drive, maybe that accounts for it, maybe it doesn&#039;t. You can keep arguing with me about a system you&#039;ve never heard, I&#039;ve got nothing but time.

My 360 isn&#039;t loud ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a troll I am, my playstation/nintendo/xbox/pc owning self. Such fanboyism towards.. uh.. everything.</p>
<p>My 360 has a BenQ drive, maybe that accounts for it, maybe it doesn&#8217;t. You can keep arguing with me about a system you&#8217;ve never heard, I&#8217;ve got nothing but time.</p>
<p>My 360 isn&#8217;t loud ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27829</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the dashboard isn&#039;t loud? are you serious? 48db is ear shattering, come on...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the dashboard isn&#8217;t loud? are you serious? 48db is ear shattering, come on&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27828</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only time it will ever get loud is if you are upscaling DVD’s to 1080i/p and then it is only moderately louder than normal.&quot;

It&#039;s interesting you mention that.  The reason is because the PS3 will have to spin at 8x, as opposed to the blu-ray 2x - hence it will be louder.  The drive is meant to be the main contention for the loud 360 - a 12x DVD drive is louder than 2x.  It is necessarily louder, unless there&#039;s extenssive padding, which isn&#039;t possible.

I don&#039;t think anyone is saying the 360 is loud when it&#039;s on the dashboard.  Anyway, I&#039;m out of this convo, since it seems to be one of those never-ending ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only time it will ever get loud is if you are upscaling DVD’s to 1080i/p and then it is only moderately louder than normal.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting you mention that.  The reason is because the PS3 will have to spin at 8x, as opposed to the blu-ray 2x &#8211; hence it will be louder.  The drive is meant to be the main contention for the loud 360 &#8211; a 12x DVD drive is louder than 2x.  It is necessarily louder, unless there&#8217;s extenssive padding, which isn&#8217;t possible.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is saying the 360 is loud when it&#8217;s on the dashboard.  Anyway, I&#8217;m out of this convo, since it seems to be one of those never-ending ones.</p>
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		<title>By: hooflung64</title>
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		<dc:creator>hooflung64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;ve been a reader of this site one day and I already know DavidGX is a troll. Your 360 isn&#039;t loud? Your a liar. Friend with a PS3 louder than an Xbox 360? Your a liar and using anecdotal evidence so people can only call you liar.

You live in world where all the &#039;coincidences&#039; seem to a make you look like a forum warrior. Play the new Conan MMO if you want to be an internet hero. 

The 360 is loud. Its whiney. And if it could type it would probably hit the &#039;Submit Comment&#039; a lot more than you too. If that was possible. My PS3 I am sitting 2 feet in front of and its dead silent except for 10 seconds of boot up process.

The only time it will ever get loud is if you are upscaling DVD&#039;s to 1080i/p and then it is only moderately louder than normal. Every Xbox 360 I&#039;ve been around was a noisy devil and one of the reasons, the RRoD being the primary reason, I didn&#039;t buy one. Forces Unleashed and Resident Evil 5 were the only games I cared about for next gen... and the Xbox was cheaper. PS3 won the day because of build quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;ve been a reader of this site one day and I already know DavidGX is a troll. Your 360 isn&#8217;t loud? Your a liar. Friend with a PS3 louder than an Xbox 360? Your a liar and using anecdotal evidence so people can only call you liar.</p>
<p>You live in world where all the &#8216;coincidences&#8217; seem to a make you look like a forum warrior. Play the new Conan MMO if you want to be an internet hero. </p>
<p>The 360 is loud. Its whiney. And if it could type it would probably hit the &#8216;Submit Comment&#8217; a lot more than you too. If that was possible. My PS3 I am sitting 2 feet in front of and its dead silent except for 10 seconds of boot up process.</p>
<p>The only time it will ever get loud is if you are upscaling DVD&#8217;s to 1080i/p and then it is only moderately louder than normal. Every Xbox 360 I&#8217;ve been around was a noisy devil and one of the reasons, the RRoD being the primary reason, I didn&#8217;t buy one. Forces Unleashed and Resident Evil 5 were the only games I cared about for next gen&#8230; and the Xbox was cheaper. PS3 won the day because of build quality.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27818</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT doesn&#039;t matter how many people agree. It doesn&#039;t affect my system, my sisters system or my friends system. Three different systems, three different owners, three different people saying their 360s aren&#039;t loud.

And as far as the ps3 goes, I&#039;m simply passing along what he said. I couldn&#039;t comment on that as I don&#039;t own a PS3. He works for a company that does tech support for playstation so he&#039;d know a hell of a lot more on the subject than you do.

Your opinion of the matter doesn&#039;t effect my console, I&#039;m afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT doesn&#8217;t matter how many people agree. It doesn&#8217;t affect my system, my sisters system or my friends system. Three different systems, three different owners, three different people saying their 360s aren&#8217;t loud.</p>
<p>And as far as the ps3 goes, I&#8217;m simply passing along what he said. I couldn&#8217;t comment on that as I don&#8217;t own a PS3. He works for a company that does tech support for playstation so he&#8217;d know a hell of a lot more on the subject than you do.</p>
<p>Your opinion of the matter doesn&#8217;t effect my console, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27801</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it is, sony sucks... The only people who think the xbox isn&#039;t noisy are either deaf or microsoft tools. Every single xbox is loud, its annoying and the community at large is in agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it is, sony sucks&#8230; The only people who think the xbox isn&#8217;t noisy are either deaf or microsoft tools. Every single xbox is loud, its annoying and the community at large is in agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27792</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the guy I asked about this on ventrilo says his PS3 is louder than this 360.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the guy I asked about this on ventrilo says his PS3 is louder than this 360.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27791</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying all 360s aren&#039;t loud.. I&#039;m saying mine isn&#039;t, my sister says hers isn&#039;t (and I&#039;ve heard it so I&#039;d agree). And as a bonus, while talking about the subject on ventrilo with a friend of mine earlier I asked him if he thought his 360 was loud.. nope.

You&#039;ve never heard these 360s, I don&#039;t see how you think you know how they sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying all 360s aren&#8217;t loud.. I&#8217;m saying mine isn&#8217;t, my sister says hers isn&#8217;t (and I&#8217;ve heard it so I&#8217;d agree). And as a bonus, while talking about the subject on ventrilo with a friend of mine earlier I asked him if he thought his 360 was loud.. nope.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve never heard these 360s, I don&#8217;t see how you think you know how they sound.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27788</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s funny, your the one who can&#039;t hear his console taking off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s funny, your the one who can&#8217;t hear his console taking off.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27786</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just great, but my 360 isn&#039;t loud. And neither is my sisters. You might want to get a hearing exam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just great, but my 360 isn&#8217;t loud. And neither is my sisters. You might want to get a hearing exam.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27784</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60db is not quiet that&#039;s for damn sure.</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27783</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well David, I think what LC is working on is the wide reports of the Xbox 360 being loud in comparison to other consoles.  What&#039;s important is the &quot;in comparison&quot;.  The PS3 contains a liquid cooling system, and one fan - and is most of the time silent.  What also helps is that the Blu-ray drive is only 2x, meaning it needn&#039;t spin anywhere near as fast as the Xbox 360&#039;s 12x DVD drive. 

Thus, in comparison, the Xbox 360 is generally louder.  In fact, most believe it is louder than the PS2, the Wii, the Xbox and many consoles before it.  

All LC needed have done to support his case is to provide some sources: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2066860,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/04/shutting-up-your-xbox-360/
And if you were to search the internet you would find many forum topics exclaiming that the Xbox 360 is loud.

So it might not be loud, but it is reported to be louder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well David, I think what LC is working on is the wide reports of the Xbox 360 being loud in comparison to other consoles.  What&#8217;s important is the &#8220;in comparison&#8221;.  The PS3 contains a liquid cooling system, and one fan &#8211; and is most of the time silent.  What also helps is that the Blu-ray drive is only 2x, meaning it needn&#8217;t spin anywhere near as fast as the Xbox 360&#8242;s 12x DVD drive. </p>
<p>Thus, in comparison, the Xbox 360 is generally louder.  In fact, most believe it is louder than the PS2, the Wii, the Xbox and many consoles before it.  </p>
<p>All LC needed have done to support his case is to provide some sources: <a href="http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2066860,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532" rel="nofollow">http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2066860,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532</a><br />
<a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/04/shutting-up-your-xbox-360/" rel="nofollow">http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/04/shutting-up-your-xbox-360/</a><br />
And if you were to search the internet you would find many forum topics exclaiming that the Xbox 360 is loud.</p>
<p>So it might not be loud, but it is reported to be louder.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Falcon Elite 360 isn&#039;t loud. I asked my sister about her 360, which is a standard first edition (aka: old unreliable) and hers isn&#039;t loud either. I don&#039;t know what&#039;s wrong with your 360 but you might want to call microsoft and see about a repair/replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Falcon Elite 360 isn&#8217;t loud. I asked my sister about her 360, which is a standard first edition (aka: old unreliable) and hers isn&#8217;t loud either. I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s wrong with your 360 but you might want to call microsoft and see about a repair/replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27754</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to believe in the power of karma or voodoo, just in microsoft ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to believe in the power of karma or voodoo, just in microsoft ability.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Steen</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27751</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not very nice LC :(</description>
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		<title>By: Wade Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That jumped up a notch. I wouldn&#039;t wish a red ring on anyone. If you get one LC, I&#039;ll be a believer in karma. If David does, then I&#039;ll be a believer in Voodoo. If both of you do, I&#039;ll just laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That jumped up a notch. I wouldn&#8217;t wish a red ring on anyone. If you get one LC, I&#8217;ll be a believer in karma. If David does, then I&#8217;ll be a believer in Voodoo. If both of you do, I&#8217;ll just laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/09/quieter-xbox-360s-incoming/comment-page-1/#comment-27745</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your 360 is loud, your deluded and you deserve a red ring.</description>
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