And there is a difference between language naturally evolving (with the introduction of new words, or combining existing words through daily conversing) and the conscious decision by a collection of people to change a words spelling to either make it simpler to spell (ie. rumour to rumor, plough to plow) or to change a word’s spelling so as to not offend (ie. titbit to tidbit).

Of course they’re all variants mad, I was only jesting.

now if he said something like the opposite of width was “heidth”
then he would have deserved a royal @$$ kicking. :P

Patrick just so happens to reside in the UK.

Chad-

Not to sound rude, but your just WRONG. since Playstation Launch, The MGS series has been ported out of the brand’s systems. Metal gear solid 1 was originally out for Playstation1, years after remade for Nintendo Gamecube as MGS: The Twin Snakes. Metal Gear solid 2 was originally planned for Playstation2, but not too much later from the lauch of the game, it was once again ported to other systems: PC and Xbox to be more precise, in the form of a new ‘edition’ with added content (also release on PS2)

On a different note… The original MGS for PSX came in TWO CDs, and there were not many FMV’s, because almost all scenes were made out of the game’s graphic engine. And furthermore, I believe the voice acting was exclusive on each region, meaning that French voiced MGS had just that language inside the discs, as the English voiced game had only the english dubbing.

XBLA Games usually got enhanced graphics, new interface, and more options… HOW the hell are they going to fit all that content in 350MB? I call this rumoUr (:P) false. And I wish it was true, because I’m a “megahuge” (oooooh yes, I said that) fan of MGS :S

I have considered purchasing a PS3 for MGS4, but even if i did I think I’d play through it then the PS3 would start collecting dust. Ausbo is right though, I’m almost scared owning one will turn me into a drooling PS3 fanboy retard desperately trying to justify mommy’s waste of a christmas present.

By the way, the game (MGS4) doesn’t need to fit in one DVD. If PS3 owners can bear an 1-3 minute installation after each chapter, Xbox 360 owners can live with disc swapping instead. It’d be even less annoying in my opinion.

I’ve already made clear my feelings on installs ( http://www.ripten.com/2008/05/30/haze-hands-on-single-player-co-op/ ), with a preference for Sony to reduce their allowance way below 5gb per game. Installs are used because they can aid a game’s engine, but it is not the only solution, as Naughty Dog has proved.

Do you really think Sony made Blu-ray discs so developers can copy the game’s data in multiple locations?

The PlayStation 3 is a streaming system even though all consoles can. The PlayStation 3 was made to stream like PCs (Personal Computers). This is why the architecture is so different from the XBOX 360’s.

Tell that to those with 20 and 40 gig ps3’s out of room because of forced installs Patty mc Paterson.

LC
on June 10, 2008 1:26 pm

“and zero compression…”

No and you’re most likely not going to see me comment anymore. So all I’m saying is if a game that is 25GB doesn’t need installs than a multiplatform game can. All they need to do is put a little more blood and sweat or make it lead platform.

You can read plenty about Uncharted’s use of Blu-ray in our interview with Naughty Dog’s Richard Diamant:

“Patrick: Are you sick of people asking [...] how much space the game takes up on a Blu-ray?

Richard: I guess I don’t really mind when they ask.

[...] However, I don’t really understand why it matters how much space we take up. The Blu-ray gives us the ability to do almost anything we want. It’s an amazing piece of technology. I think we should all just be thankful we are no longer limited.

Patrick: With that in mind, could you fit Uncharted on a DVD if the cutscenes were rendered in-engine, instead of being stored as HD movies?

Richard: Honestly, I ‘m not really sure. I think we have so much data in terms of textures, models, and animation that it probably would go over. I guess it is possible though.

The thing is, we never really thought about it since we didn’t have to think about it. We never held anything back, which we might have had to do if we were limited to a DVD. I never really calculated the space the game takes up without the movies or extras, so to answer this question would really just be too hard.

Again though, does it really matter? That’s the good thing about the PS3. We don’t have to worry about storage anymore. I think this question is trying to satisfy all the people who want to know if it is possible to make Uncharted on the 360.

That question will have to remain unknown since it will never happen :) Now if it did need to happen, is it so bad to go back to the days of “Enter Disk 2″! Actually it might be. I guess the PS3 is better…hmm….”

http://www.ripten.com/2008/01/21/richard-diamant-interview-part-2-art-style-water-and-the-advantages-of-blu-ray/

Uncharted still uses compression, as does MGS4. What Blu-ray affords is freedom in data storage - the advantages of this can only be answered by developers themselves. How much time and money do you want to spend on compression and cutting from your game?

As TX3 says - Uncharted has no loading, and no install, and no “junk data” (there is little evidence of this being used in PS3 games, with the supposed exception being Oblivion, which was then disproved by the developer) as was expressed in an interview over at PSU.com:

“Christophe Balestra, Co-President of Naughty Dog: We fill the disc at 91 percent and it’s optimized, meaning we don’t duplicate any data.” http://www.psu.com/PSU-talks-Uncharted-with-Naughty-Dog-Co-Vice-President-Feature–a1851-p0.php

Moreover, if “junk data” could result in no loading without the need for an install, then more developers should use Blu-ray for this cause. Don’t you think?

As for this comment: “in this case I think all discerning gamers can agree every byte of uncharted is junk.” Why not strengthen your case by being reasonable and lucid?

So you’re stating games like Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Devil May Cry 4, Burnout Paradise, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas 2 all are uncompressed on the PlayStation 3?

Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune has no loading times and uses the full first layer (25GB).

CD-ROM
700MB

XBOX Live
Arcad Size Limit: 350MB

Even with that said it’s still too much 1400MB (1.37GB) one disc alone is already too much. This just shows you how much Sony thinks ahead especially with space. What’s really interesting Microsoft is rumoured to be into digital distribution. Choices for cheaper hardware will cost them in the end.

Hint: Blu-ray Discs