True. I hear he now wants to be called Pac-Man B.

Not to re-incite a flame war, but nothing from Gears is original. Assault rifles with chainsaw bayonets have been in Warhammer 40,000 for the past 20 years.

Guess he’s still kind of a douche though.

@ adam: Yeah seriously, everyone seems to think Gears’ cover mechanic gameplay is something new, when kill.switch and even Winback had it in the PS2 days. Gears was an okay game, but it was only 4 hours of gameplay with an incoherent plot and recycled ideas. MGS4 is a great game and unique in both story and gameplay. It invented the stealth genre. The only thing Gears has added to gaming culture is a chainsaw strapped to an assault rifle.

Does anyone ever look at the source? I didn’t make this up. Go look for yourself. The source is there for a reason, easily clickable so you don’t even have to type the address in or copy and paste. Read it for yourself. Jeez…

Seriously? MGS4 is an original story but GoW is just aliens attacking humans? MGS, the entire series, is the quintisential lame action movie. One lone soldier against the odds has to take out the threat to planet/country/freedom. I love when people want to bust on a game they break it down to it’s very simple core, but when the boost a game up, it’s so very complicated. It’s not. GoW has story, What about Dom’s missing wife? What about Fenix’s trial? True, they don’t give you answers to a lot of the stuff they hint at, but surely someone trying to defend MGS isn’t going to try and bust on GoW for being vague or confusing? I’m sure right from the beginning we knew exactly who Revolver Ocelot was working for… right? And MGS2… yeah, that was so strait forward and made plenty of sense at the time as to how it fit into everything…

Everything else is just flavor that has nothing to do with the overall story if that’s how you want to break things down. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the story and stuff of MGS, but after awhile the soapyness of it got to me. There is only so much melodrama I can take before I need an insulin shot. Sometimes it’s nice to not need a sixty fucking minute cut-scene to explain to me why I need to blow up a fucking tank. Call me on the radio, say “Krispy, blow up that muthafukin tank!” and I’ll do it. Shit, Mass Effect had a great story and even the dialog didn’t take a fucking hour in one sitting. I can’t think of any games where they needed to take an hour out of the gameplay to explain shit to you. To me, that sounds like bad video game storytelling and design. Bioshock was praised for it’s story and it didn’t have a single cut-scene. You got the story but weren’t pulled from the experience by PASSIVELY watching a movie. Wait a minute… didn’t Bioshock use the Unreal Engine…. I guess that’s just a mindless FPS also, huh?

Here is the full quote:

“We wanted a blockbuster pace, and in doing so, we lost the story a bit. So that’s one of the lessons we learned. This time round there’s more repetition. Games aren’t movies and aren’t consumed in a single sitting. So secondary characters will remind you about stuff, which is re-established in plot cues. Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we’re not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out – you need to hook up with this web 2.0 stuff.”

So take a long hard look at what he is saying and you will see that he is bashing on MGS and MGS like games that entertain gamers with lengthy cinematics.

To wrap up his statement by saying “you need to hook up with this web 2.0 stuff.” is quite possibly the most idiotic thing he could say.

I will tell you exactly what the snot nose punk is doing. He is trying to tie the hype surrounding his game with the hype surrounding an established franchise and he succeeded. There was no need to mention MGS, he could have simply said “we aren’t looking to do a game heavy on cinematics” period.

He wanted the association with Metal Gear and he meant to blast the franchise.

If you analyze his statement carefully you could go either way. First he says that MGS4 is a game that hes NOT making. From what i get from this is that GoW2 is more towards empowering the gamer and making you feel like a bad ass soldier than a sneaky Veteran of war.
The second statement goes towards nobody is making stealth games anymore. MGS4 is one of a kind. I even think UBIsoft decided to have more action in Splinter Cell than the normal sneak and shoot. So in a sense hes correct, passive games (good ones) ARE on the way out since no one is clearly making them anymore. I think people took this as a stab at MGS4 because MGS4 is in the statement, I however, dont think he meant it that way.

Now you can question the mans sexuality and what not, though im sure hes getting alot more pudding than you.

And by that you all go out into an all out attack, on both guys, both games, and eachother.

Now, I think there are problems here. But they do not lie with either Cliff, Kojima, GoW nor MGS. I’d bet these guys respect eachother’s work just fine, and at least they’re mature enough to not behave like little angry children who argues which plastic truck is bigger. Grow up children, you need to.

Because, although I like to move about more in a game, I rather have a game that you can remember,
characters that you can truly feel for. And a story to be truly immersed in. I just hope Cliffy doesn’t fall into the “it’s a hit now, so let’s make a sequel with even more of a lackluster plot and gimmicky game mechanics that will surely keep hard headed 3 second attention spanned-xbox live fans playing for weeks on end” state of mind.

and keep in mind: I have both a PS3 and 360.

GG Epic, you’re seriously ruined any faith I had left afte the last years stuff.

MGS4 is far superior to the entire collection of Epics works in one game, jealousy is a ugly thing.

Mindless action and cookie cutter characters, with no story to think about, all the way, for the Gears series.. right? Right.

Go figure.

What, a game with no story?

I 3> MGS