Please don’t apologize, you really don’t need to. Regarding my thread on GT, the so-called “evidence”, well that’s only how i see things. You have to understand that i am not trying to convince anybody, and never will. I am simply sharing the way i see things, from my personal experiences with EA and Valve. Whether people agree or not, i do not really care. In fact, do you think i care about those +2450 signatures in my petition? Of course i don’t. However, i do care about the +27000 people that visited my website over these past weeks. You see, what only matters to me is the number of people aware of the situation. Later

aat08/shhhoff,

Please don’t misunderstand me. I agree with you and respect that you’re trying to get the game fixed (even though some people think I can’t have an opinion since I never played the game). You have to understand, however, that as an outsider looking at the big picture, there appears to be to be some fanboyism there. It all makes sense when you explain it, but you have to admit that’s not necessarily how it looks on the surface. I apologize if I misrepresented anything, but my opinion still stands that your “evidence” does not “confirm” that Valve worked on the game, and ultimately, that was my point.

Dear oh dear… so what you’re saying is for the last 2-3 years sony has failed to listen to developers and only in the last few months they’ve decided to listen to them and make a change… and you wonder why developers don’t want to develop for it?!

Now I’m wandering… did YOU think before typing?

Also, if you wonder why ps3 versions are inferior to the 360’s think on this before instantly jumping to the same old lame conclusion ‘its lazy coders’…

GTAIV shows, in game comparisons, that the ps3 version has slower frame rates (5-10 frames in most instances) than the 360, has lower texture resolution, a lower screen resolution and shows less power in post processing than the 360. Now, and this is from memory, didn’t sony send some of their best technicians to Rockstar to work with them over the final months to push the ps3 architecture to its limit? I assume these sony technicians wanted the ps3 version to be worse than the 360’s? I mean if you follow the ‘logic’, this is what you are sayiny… they were just being lazy right…

Again, face the REALITY please… the ps3 (really it’s only a ps2.5) is INFERIOR to the 360… sorry to burst your bubble guys…

Quoting you:
“The reason I don’t buy it is because I’m a logical person. Shhhoff’s blog is called “Gabe Newell – the fat princess” and is filled with animated gifs making fun of the Valve co-founder.”

Let’s talk about my blog for a second. It seems you did not read what it is about, so i’ll tell you right now: I add each childish comment i randomly come across, whether on forums or news comments, that has been addressed to Gabe. But i don’t cite the source. It’s that simple. I’ve done it out of boredom. Yes i am frustrated more than anybody is regarding Orange Box PS3, but in no way does that blog “reek of fanboyism”. You said earlier maybe you shouldn’t have talked about my blog; well i am thankful you actually did.

All that saddens me here is that you were convinced by a silly blog i created, and not by all i’ve done and gone through to fight for a fix. Cheers

I said shhhoff’s blog and post about the “confirmation” of Valve’s involvement reeked of fanboyism because it seems he is mad at Gabe Newell (and Valve) for dissing the PS3. If his problem was with the PS3 port itself, busting on Gabe is unjustified since he and Valve were supposedly not involved in making the shitty port to begin with. Do you see the thought process here? I never said that his complaints about the game were unwarranted (I said the port sucked, remember?), nor did I label all the people wanting a proper fix as fanboys. I think the game needs fixed and shhhoff is justified in taking a stance, but his blog would lead people to take his “evidence” with a bit more skepticism, which is what happened with me.

You guys said pretty much everything. I’ll just add one thing here. So now, ripten and all others claiming the Orange Box PS3 is crystal, asking for a fix to a broken product that was sold full price makes us fanboys? Now that’s funny. Get real already, enough with childish comments. We will fight until we get what we want.

greeting to all TF2F and GFTF2 members.

First of all, the only “patch” we got way back in the way was to fix the “friends list bug” where people you were playing with didnt show up on your recently played with friends, and if you had more than 30 people in your PSN friends list, the game would freeze on you if you searched for any in game. Great, good patch, except no, it didnt fix anything, the up’d the amount of friends from 30 to somewhere around 45, its different for most players. However, IN GAME, you can still only see up to 5 friends that are playing at a time, and if you try to refresh, the game freezes.
Another problem is the servers, people disconnect, its hard to find a server without lag, and they constantly are going down.
Clan support. You would think a online first person shooter called TEAM fortress would have some time of team/clan support. No, none at all, you cant even password servers. Some of us have tried to start clans, but I can not tell you how frustrating it is to try to have a match with a bunch of random people joining and not leaving because of the “Mic Glitch” Yes, the mics dont work 100% of the time, or even 50% of the time. You can be talking to a guy one min, and the next nothing. Im not a sonyfanboy here, but I am definatly a TF2 fanboy. I still play the game because the players left are a good bunch and we have formed a strong community. However, with all that, Ill keep playing this game and just deal with the players setting up sentry guns under maps, or teleporting to the top of the map and shooting you, or shooting through floors, jumping through walls, and the lack of any new maps or character development. I just wish someone would own up to it.

By the way, I have had a good long conversation with the guys at EA tech support, and one of them basically just told me, “listen man, this game is flawed, I know, I play it too, but you are not going to get any help from us.” They then redirected me to the Valve forums to ask for help… fantastic.

I know shhhoff and the problems he’s having with TF2 on PS3, turns out he can only play one map(cp_well) the rest will not load for some strange reason. I also signed his petition a while ago. Keep up the good work shhhoff.

I quit trying to play TF2 on PS3 cos it sucks so much and got a nice new big shiny PC to play it on now… WOOOOOT!!

Also another, BIG hi to Big_Grizzly_D! Hows it going mate?

The main issue is that the PS3 version doesn’t get any updates/fixes. The 360 is apparently getting some of the character updates at some point while the PS3 struggles to get even bug fixes. There are loads of problems with the servers (disconns etc), although they’re intermittant, otherwise I’d have given up long ago. There have been problems with EU (and US_EC) servers being down and hideous lag found in all games. This seems to be a weekly problem for some reason.

Most PS3 players have accepted that we’re never getting the characters updates/achievements/maps etc but maybe just a small fix or 2? Not much to ask.

So I dunno, if shhhoff’s a fanboy, he’s a TF2 one, not Sony.

Also, Hi to Big_Grizzly_D!

No, you’re wrong… the ps3 is a real turd to code for. It’s a FACT… when are you sonyfanboys going to finally realise this?

I know two dev teams, damn fine programmers, that have flat refused to work on the ps3. Reason sited are poor tools and support, and the fact you have to spend a lot more time programming for the ps3 to get the same result as the 360… it’s not lazy… it’s cost effect and more practical to ditch development for the ps3… that’s just how it is… development is far easier and more cost effective on the 360..

Just get over it sonyfanboys… it’s a FACT

You’re right, but I didn’t think the fact that immature kids poke fun at a fat guy was relevant to this article.

The shhhoff “callout” was essentially the source of this article. I was using it as an example of how someone would take the statement made in the Erik Johnson interview and turn it into the supposed “confirmation” that Valve worked on this game, which is the story that was tipped to us and many other gaming sites. I didn’t agree with the interpretation of the “facts”, and so I wrote what I wrote assuming most other sites (if they reported it) would just go with the initial story and not dive into it like I did.

It perhaps wasn’t necessary to drop shhhoff’s name and link to the site, but it would be somewhat irresponsible to report on it and talk about it without letting the readers see what I’m referring to.

Ripten, you disappoint me with that one.

But to get back on-topic.. this seems.. rather low of Valve if true.

Many of his previous comments have been outright proven WRONG. Yet no reputable sites point that out.. it’s rather sad, really.

I, for one, think the shhhoff callout was unneeded and rather low of a reputable source like Ripten.

Don’t like it? Skip it, buddy.

I’m sorry if my one line title was not long and descriptive enough to fully describe the situation without having to simply say “it sucked”. I didn’t base this on 1up’s preview — I wasn’t aware that I needed to list every site that affected my opinion of the game. 1up (the actual review), IGN, GameDaily, GameSpy, even TheSixthAxis, all gave the game a merely okay score and said the PS3 version was decidedly flawed, and so scored it lower. A lot of sites even recommended you NOT get the PS3 version if you have the option of getting it for PC or 360.

I don’t see how any of this indicates that I “don’t know what I’m talking about”. Maybe you should reconsider your statement that you are not a Sony fanboy, or simply drop the attitude.

Wow, and you base this off of 1up’s preview? First off, all the people who reviewed it, played the game on review copies i.e., copies before the game goes gold. HL2, and EP1, EP2, as well as Portal have no problems. I’ve only had two framerate drops since and I’ve beaten all four games. The only problem is sometimes the load times are ridiculous, but graphically, technically, and essentially, all games are the same on all versions EXCEPT TF2.

The problem with TF2 is the glitches, which have yet to be fixed, and some people still have problems connecting to the servers. EA is pissed at Valve, and thus, the PS3 verison isn’t getting any patches or updates at all.

Unplayable? Not at ALL. What did they do, throw their PS3’s in the river and then try to play it? Wow. And yes, Valve is just too lazy to learn how to code for PS3. They were proven wrong countless times since Gabe said that. No, I’m not some Sony fanboy, but at least I know what I;m talking about.

Its a great game, worth every penny wither way.