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	<title>Comments on: PlayStation 3&#8217;s Million-Sellers</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-122073</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VGChartz still isn&#039;t the basis for this list, but I did look at it.  I also compared press releases, corporate sites, Famitsu -- all of which I didn&#039;t specifically mention either.  The main goal was to find the games that sold over a million copies.  The exact number is kinda beside the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VGChartz still isn&#8217;t the basis for this list, but I did look at it.  I also compared press releases, corporate sites, Famitsu &#8212; all of which I didn&#8217;t specifically mention either.  The main goal was to find the games that sold over a million copies.  The exact number is kinda beside the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ladnis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121967</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ladnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there is info not available to the public. If you read what I say, I claimed that you don&#039;t have it. 

As for this &quot;I’m not sure why you guys feel like you are busting me on something that I freely admit to using. &quot; 

Well, you didn&#039;t before people mentioned it, and then you slowly said that you used VGChartz. You said

&quot;VGcharts is not the basis of this list, but I did compare.&quot;

That there, is what we reacted on (apart from the fact that you in the article gave to mention to VGC). You have the exact same numbers as VGChartz do, just rounded. That gives some serious doubt to you having some other information from NPD or Chart Track. 

You&#039;re good at squeeling yourself away when you messed up, but admitting it would have been much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there is info not available to the public. If you read what I say, I claimed that you don&#8217;t have it. </p>
<p>As for this &#8220;I’m not sure why you guys feel like you are busting me on something that I freely admit to using. &#8221; </p>
<p>Well, you didn&#8217;t before people mentioned it, and then you slowly said that you used VGChartz. You said</p>
<p>&#8220;VGcharts is not the basis of this list, but I did compare.&#8221;</p>
<p>That there, is what we reacted on (apart from the fact that you in the article gave to mention to VGC). You have the exact same numbers as VGChartz do, just rounded. That gives some serious doubt to you having some other information from NPD or Chart Track. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re good at squeeling yourself away when you messed up, but admitting it would have been much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121785</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can believe what you want.  After looking at VGChartz&#039;s numbers, it would have been a lot simpler and faster to just use that to begin with, but I was trying to find more current information from more &quot;official&quot; sources like NPD.  I&#039;ve said several times now that I did look at VGChartz, so I&#039;m not sure why you guys feel like you are busting me on something that I freely admit to using.  After doing all this pointless research that nobody believes anyway, I will ONLY use VGChartz for the rest of my life.

And just FYI, Mr. Ladnis, there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; information out there that is not made available to the general public.  It&#039;s available to plenty of people, just apparently not you.  I&#039;m actually somewhat surprised that you would think otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can believe what you want.  After looking at VGChartz&#8217;s numbers, it would have been a lot simpler and faster to just use that to begin with, but I was trying to find more current information from more &#8220;official&#8221; sources like NPD.  I&#8217;ve said several times now that I did look at VGChartz, so I&#8217;m not sure why you guys feel like you are busting me on something that I freely admit to using.  After doing all this pointless research that nobody believes anyway, I will ONLY use VGChartz for the rest of my life.</p>
<p>And just FYI, Mr. Ladnis, there <em>is</em> information out there that is not made available to the general public.  It&#8217;s available to plenty of people, just apparently not you.  I&#8217;m actually somewhat surprised that you would think otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ladnis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121776</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ladnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you said &quot;VGcharts is not the basis of this list, but I did compare.&quot; 

That means that you are saying that you found the numbers from someplace else too, you didn&#039;t. Prove that you did, or stop claiming that you have some data that isn&#039;t available to anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you said &#8220;VGcharts is not the basis of this list, but I did compare.&#8221; </p>
<p>That means that you are saying that you found the numbers from someplace else too, you didn&#8217;t. Prove that you did, or stop claiming that you have some data that isn&#8217;t available to anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121766</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, you have copied directly vgchartz numbers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, you have copied directly vgchartz numbers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paper</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121761</link>
		<dc:creator>paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan Landis

Why are you acting like rounding was some sort of exhaustive effort.  All you did was truncate the numbers (except FIFA 09 for some odd reason).  I don&#039;t see how that is any slower, unless you were going to literally copy and paste from vgc, but then you&#039;d need to edit extraneous things out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan Landis</p>
<p>Why are you acting like rounding was some sort of exhaustive effort.  All you did was truncate the numbers (except FIFA 09 for some odd reason).  I don&#8217;t see how that is any slower, unless you were going to literally copy and paste from vgc, but then you&#8217;d need to edit extraneous things out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121760</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* I don&#039;t know how many times I have to say it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* I don&#8217;t know how many times I have to say it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paper</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121756</link>
		<dc:creator>paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan Ladnis

Well the numbers will always be higher than chart track+NPD because those only cover a handful of countries.

But yeah, that does pretty much prove that he just copied VGChartz numbers.  Though I am relatively sure Motorstorm would be over 1 million not counting the bundles.  It was really only extensively bundled in the US, and sold about 400k there before the bundles even started.

Anyways, I don&#039;t see why the author didn&#039;t just credit VGChartz, instead of claiming to use NPD/Chart-Track data.  Or at the very least make it less blatant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan Ladnis</p>
<p>Well the numbers will always be higher than chart track+NPD because those only cover a handful of countries.</p>
<p>But yeah, that does pretty much prove that he just copied VGChartz numbers.  Though I am relatively sure Motorstorm would be over 1 million not counting the bundles.  It was really only extensively bundled in the US, and sold about 400k there before the bundles even started.</p>
<p>Anyways, I don&#8217;t see why the author didn&#8217;t just credit VGChartz, instead of claiming to use NPD/Chart-Track data.  Or at the very least make it less blatant.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121739</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Ladnis, I was only talking about bundled sales for MGS4 when I said they weren&#039;t counted, and I freely admitted that I used VGchartz.  As I said before, if I was going to use VGchartz as my sole source of information, I would have just used their numbers instead of &quot;rounding&quot; and just given them credit.  It sure would have been a lot faster.

Great name, by the way, but I think you copied it instead of coming up with your own, and your name is also less accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Ladnis, I was only talking about bundled sales for MGS4 when I said they weren&#8217;t counted, and I freely admitted that I used VGchartz.  As I said before, if I was going to use VGchartz as my sole source of information, I would have just used their numbers instead of &#8220;rounding&#8221; and just given them credit.  It sure would have been a lot faster.</p>
<p>Great name, by the way, but I think you copied it instead of coming up with your own, and your name is also less accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ladnis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121724</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ladnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how you while using various tools, and info from NPD and Chart Track managed to become LESS accurate than what you get from VGChartz, a free site, with public data, huh? 

Oh come on! I think you should take some advice from yourself. 

&quot;So all these idiots pretending to be analysts need to just stop writing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how you while using various tools, and info from NPD and Chart Track managed to become LESS accurate than what you get from VGChartz, a free site, with public data, huh? </p>
<p>Oh come on! I think you should take some advice from yourself. </p>
<p>&#8220;So all these idiots pretending to be analysts need to just stop writing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ladnis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121723</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ladnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what&#039;s kinda awesome? You wrote this. 

So I used the various tools and information from NPD and sites like Chart-Track to compile this list of PS3 games with worldwide sales over one million units, as accurate as I could make it with the latest information I had.

And yet, you were less accurate than what VGChartz is. Amazing huh? How you with various tools and info from NPD and Chart-Track, managed to be less accurate than what anyone can visit a free site, with no sign-up and find out, telling you where they find the numbers? 

I think you should take some advice from yourself. As you wrote here: http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/15/littlebigplanet-sales-not-that-great-no-shit/

So all these idiots pretending to be analysts need to just stop writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8217;s kinda awesome? You wrote this. </p>
<p>So I used the various tools and information from NPD and sites like Chart-Track to compile this list of PS3 games with worldwide sales over one million units, as accurate as I could make it with the latest information I had.</p>
<p>And yet, you were less accurate than what VGChartz is. Amazing huh? How you with various tools and info from NPD and Chart-Track, managed to be less accurate than what anyone can visit a free site, with no sign-up and find out, telling you where they find the numbers? </p>
<p>I think you should take some advice from yourself. As you wrote here: <a href="http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/15/littlebigplanet-sales-not-that-great-no-shit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/15/littlebigplanet-sales-not-that-great-no-shit/</a></p>
<p>So all these idiots pretending to be analysts need to just stop writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ladnis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121721</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ladnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is where you proved that you copied. 

&quot;The numbers I used did not take into account bundled sales, which some people could (and will) argue shouldn’t be counted.&quot; 

Motorstorm has sold less than 1M not counting bundles, still you have the same number as VGChartz, which does track bundles. Your number is higher than what chart track + NPD would give you, as they don&#039;t count bundles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where you proved that you copied. </p>
<p>&#8220;The numbers I used did not take into account bundled sales, which some people could (and will) argue shouldn’t be counted.&#8221; </p>
<p>Motorstorm has sold less than 1M not counting bundles, still you have the same number as VGChartz, which does track bundles. Your number is higher than what chart track + NPD would give you, as they don&#8217;t count bundles.</p>
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		<title>By: Danzig</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121717</link>
		<dc:creator>Danzig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VGchartz uses numbers sold to PEOPLE, that is why MGS4 is tracked at less than what Konami states, since Konami list numbers sold to STORES.

A sale to a store is not a real sale.

Learn the difference people and stop sounding ignorant.  VGchartz is probably a little out, but not by a great amount.


Also, no, the numbers cannot be edited by anyone like wiki, that is just completely false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VGchartz uses numbers sold to PEOPLE, that is why MGS4 is tracked at less than what Konami states, since Konami list numbers sold to STORES.</p>
<p>A sale to a store is not a real sale.</p>
<p>Learn the difference people and stop sounding ignorant.  VGchartz is probably a little out, but not by a great amount.</p>
<p>Also, no, the numbers cannot be edited by anyone like wiki, that is just completely false.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomonoatmeal Cookigaki</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121559</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomonoatmeal Cookigaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAD BUT TRUUUUEE!  Cookigaki just heard wailing guitar as these words were read!  Cookigaki can no longer get out of computer chair for massive boner is keeping Cookigaki stuck under desk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAD BUT TRUUUUEE!  Cookigaki just heard wailing guitar as these words were read!  Cookigaki can no longer get out of computer chair for massive boner is keeping Cookigaki stuck under desk!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121526</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, sad but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121499</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only thing N4G has is a community of a few intelligent people drowning in a sea of douchebag fanboys.&quot;

Your websites may have more in common than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing N4G has is a community of a few intelligent people drowning in a sea of douchebag fanboys.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your websites may have more in common than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: AMC</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121497</link>
		<dc:creator>AMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone has to admit that the PS3 is a great piece of hardware. IMO, I think Sony was planning more toward the future with the PS3 and letting the 360 pretty much have it until then.

About N4G, what is there to say about it that hasn&#039;t been said? Want more proof go read stuff on there and compare it to Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has to admit that the PS3 is a great piece of hardware. IMO, I think Sony was planning more toward the future with the PS3 and letting the 360 pretty much have it until then.</p>
<p>About N4G, what is there to say about it that hasn&#8217;t been said? Want more proof go read stuff on there and compare it to Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Landis</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121483</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Landis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I know what Konami&#039;s press release has said, but the numbers I am using do not include bundled copies.

And GameOn, I also had quite the laugh at the mention of N4G.  Do people not realize that N4G has no opinion and no facts, that all of their articles are from other websites?  How could you say you trust a site that has no voice of its own to trust?  The only thing N4G has is a community of a few intelligent people drowning in a sea of douchebag fanboys.  It&#039;s a good source for finding gaming-related stuff from around the web, but the site itself has little content of its own to be labeled credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know what Konami&#8217;s press release has said, but the numbers I am using do not include bundled copies.</p>
<p>And GameOn, I also had quite the laugh at the mention of N4G.  Do people not realize that N4G has no opinion and no facts, that all of their articles are from other websites?  How could you say you trust a site that has no voice of its own to trust?  The only thing N4G has is a community of a few intelligent people drowning in a sea of douchebag fanboys.  It&#8217;s a good source for finding gaming-related stuff from around the web, but the site itself has little content of its own to be labeled credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121439</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atleast PS3 owners have a bunch of good sellers. Wonder hoe LBP will do in 4 months time.. or even R2 cant be more than 5 million i predict</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atleast PS3 owners have a bunch of good sellers. Wonder hoe LBP will do in 4 months time.. or even R2 cant be more than 5 million i predict</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWanker</title>
		<link>http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/playstation-3s-million-sellers/comment-page-1/#comment-121269</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any fact is as bias as any opinion. How? Once the facts are stated, it&#039;s left to your judgment to choose whether to accept or reject them.

In other words, Dan&#039;s references are only opinionated and/or lack validity because YOU choose to reject them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fact is as bias as any opinion. How? Once the facts are stated, it&#8217;s left to your judgment to choose whether to accept or reject them.</p>
<p>In other words, Dan&#8217;s references are only opinionated and/or lack validity because YOU choose to reject them.</p>
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