Dear Internet: Quit Overhyping Killzone 2
by Dan Landis on January 15, 2009 at 12:22 am
Like most things in life, the more something is hyped, the higher your expectations. Killzone 2 is currently the subject of so much hyperbole that it’s starting to damage what people will think of the game.
Killzone 2, as you may have heard, is the best thing in the world since sliced bread. The only problem with that notion is that Killzone 2 does not make as delicious of a sandwich.
Just taking a gander at gaming hubs like N4G, the past week has been ruled by articles about Killzone 2. Most of these articles range from relatively small sites to some well-established sites, each of which claiming that Killzone 2 will absolutely blow your mind. Of course, there are also a few saying that Killzone 2 is just another shooter and that it’s not a big deal.
I happen to be somewhere in the middle. I’ve actually gotten my hands on Killzone 2 for just a few minutes, but I also hung around and watched other people play it rather extensively. As far as first-person shooters go, Killzone 2 is great — some might even go so far as to say it’s fantastic. What Killzone 2 isn’t, however, is a ‘killer app’.
Killzone 2 is not going to move systems. Killzone 2 is not going to convert Xbox owners. Killzone 2 is not going to cure cancer or resurrect the dead. Killzone 2 is simply a great shooter, and that’s it.
The main problem with all of these sites claiming otherwise is that it is actually going to damage the impressions people get from the game. Expectations are so high right now with all of the hype that people have no choice but to be disappointed. As great as it is, it is impossible for Killzone 2 (or any other game, for that matter) to live up to the tremendous amount of hype surrounding it.
I only say this because I’m concerned for my fellow gamers. I don’t want people to be disappointed when they should be excited. I don’t want the hype to ruin the game for them, much like it did for me and GTA4. I curse IGN to this day for handing out “the first 10 since 1999” and making me believe that the game was more than it was.
So please, citizens of the Internet, I beg you: stop overhyping Killzone 2 before you end up spoiling everyone’s fun. Thank you. I will now take my leave of the Ripten soapbox.
[And for the record, I think Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 were overhyped as well.]
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on January 15, 2009 12:26 am
haha typical Ripten
Oh wait u guys gave Gears 2 10/10
KZ2 is hyped since it is extremely good
on January 15, 2009 12:53 am
Well, it seemed to have converted most, if not, all of my friends. I think it will be a killer app.
on January 15, 2009 12:57 am
dam this xbot that wrote the article got mad as fuck….daaaam they gave 10 out of 10 to a game with a broken online? good job, u guys are good at rating games, lets listen to what u have to say about kz2…i mean, ofcourse u didnt write shit like this when gaylo came out, cus it definitely disappointed. not gonna move systems? dam fanboy remarks, kid is mad the shit60 cant run the game. enjoy your halo wars
on January 15, 2009 1:00 am
Ripten was a good website when Patrick was here
Unfortunately the site is a total trash now
Gears 2 got 10/10 from Ripten and KZ2 is way better than Gears 2
even rabid xbox fanboys will also agree
on January 15, 2009 1:07 am
Let’s set some things straight here:
1. Chad Lakkis reviewed Gears 2 and gave it a 10. I have told him that I didn’t think it deserved it, and I tell all of you now that it didn’t deserve it.
2. I wasn’t a writer here when Halo 3 came out, otherwise I would have written a similar article for it. Halo 3 most certainly didn’t deserve the hype and was also not a 10 in my eyes.
3. I don’t care much about Halo Wars because I’m not really a fan of RTS games.
4. Patrick still writes here. In fact, the very next article on our front page was written by him.
5. If you want to call me an Xbot, wasim, then you’re statement is wrong: I don’t think Killzone 2 is better than Gears 2. About the same to me, really.
on January 15, 2009 1:18 am
and what is the same about it? ur presented with the best looking game on any console, a beasty multiplayer, and a feel unlike any other in any FPS genre. Along with a cover system, it plays and looks better then COD4, tell me please, what is the same about gears2 and kz2 to you? pathetic fucking garbage of a journalist, your the prime shit example of why just about anybody doesnt deserve to write reviews. ur pathetic.
on January 15, 2009 1:29 am
Thanks for the kind words, Sasa. You are a bastion of logic and prudence. You would make a much better journalist than I.
I was saying Killzone 2 and Gears 2 are the same entertainment value, as in I wouldn’t drastically prefer one over the other. I don’t see how having that opinion makes me a “pathetic fucking garbage of a journalist”. In fact, I would say that your comment makes you a pathetic fucking commenter with an unhealthy love for a game that hasn’t even been released yet. How very objective of you.
on January 15, 2009 1:40 am
Sasa K., You are just proving to be a PS3 fanboy that over hypes a game. Calling someone an Xbot is just pure stuck up, selfish, immaturity. And garbage journalist? How can you call someone a pathetic garbage journalist when your grammar is of equal skill of a five year-old? Seriously, who still say’s “ur”?
Some of you fanboy’s are just incredible immature, and is why I barely even go to N4G anymore.
I’m not sure if any of you have heard of this, but there is something called an opinion. The main definition is, “To each his own.” But I guess that doesn’t apply to you fanboy’s?
on January 15, 2009 1:40 am
Ripten you are the very definition of hypocrites
on January 15, 2009 1:44 am
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@ Dan’s reply.
Let’s dissect it for a moment:
“5. If you want to call me an Xbot, wasim, then you’re statement is wrong: I don’t think Killzone 2 is better than Gears 2. About the same to me, really.”
Believing that Gears 2, with its incredibly BROKEN and lackluster ONLINE, is anywhere near KILLZONE 2’s ONLINE (which I HAVE PLAYED since I was able to get my hands on the beta), is an absolute JOKE.
Thinking that the two titles is “ABOUT THE SAME” only proves that you are an xbot. They are not the same. Anyone that has objectively played KZ2’s online and compared it to Gears 2 would know this.
KILLZONE 2’s gunplay, graphics, and immersion are so much better than Gears of War 2, and it’s pathetic how insecure your comments are.
bbbbbbuuuuububububuub it won’t move systems. It can’t….because I don’t want it to; it would hurt my little xbot heart. Only titles named Gears of War and Halo are allowed to move systems since they’re on my precious Xbox 360.
bububuubbubububuubbububu it won’t convert xbots like myself, even though it’s a hardcore shooter that appeals to the xbox core demographic and is a much better looking and playing title than any shooter on their system.
You’re mad insecure, brah. KZ2 is fantastic, it will move systems,and xbots will be converted. Count on it.
Oh, and embrace the hype. There’s nothing wrong with it. Gears of War 2 and Halo 3 have received far more, and I never heard your butthurt xbot tears about it before now.
elpresador signing out. You have been owned.
on January 15, 2009 1:48 am
Landis, just ignore “wasim”, this guy is a troll at many websites, I really doubt this guy is even a fanboy, he uses simply ridiculous jargon everywhere about any PS3 exclusive, he’s on youtube, 1up, everywhere. Ignore him, I’ve seen him do this before.
Also pay no mind to the people attacking you, this isn’t that personal people.
I have to say, as a fan of Killzone 2, that you’re right. People often hype games to abnormal standards, all games these days have fell to the same hype. MGS4, Gears 2, LBP, Fable, you name it. As a gamer I encourage everyone to listen to Landis. Killzone 2 is most certainly an excellent game, as I have participated in the beta multiplayer, but please don’t hype it up to be the messiah or something.
on January 15, 2009 1:49 am
Oh Dan,you and your ignorance.
“Killzone 2 is not going to move systems”
I already have 3 friends that are going to buy a PS3 for killzone 2.
“Killzone 2 is not going to convert xbox owners”
Who gives a shit?
“Killzone 2 ia not a Killier app”
Oh well,I can confirm that it is,but of fuck~the NDA.
80% of the guys hyping it were in the beta,and they know what’s waiting for them.
But I agree with you,not everyone should join the hype train.But that’s what happens with every killer app right? so making an article wont change shit.
on January 15, 2009 1:50 am
Yes, I certainly feel owned, Landshiz. Everything you said is your opinion, and as much of a fucking idiot as you are, you are certainly entitled to it.
Maybe you should read points 1 and 2 again where I say that both Gears and Halo 3 don’t deserve 10’s. Nice try, but you failed.
on January 15, 2009 1:54 am
Also, have any of you actually play Gears 2 around a week after it came out, or did you just go to your friends house when he got it at launch and played it?
Comparing Gears 2 so called, “broken online play” to say Socoms is a just a ignorant fanboy-ish joke.
I’m hyped for KillZone 2. But by the way you guys over hype it, and say it will be the greatest game ever created, and just trash every other game on every other console, I’m starting to hope bad things happen to KillZone 2.
Landis did not write the reviews for Halo 3 and Gears, therefor he is no hypocrite. Maybe you should do some quick research and get some proof and credibility before you trash anything.
on January 15, 2009 1:55 am
I don’t care if you said that Gears and Halo 3 didn’t deserve 10’s.
You just EQUATED two games as being of roughly equal QUALITY when they clearly ARE NOT.
Have you lived under a rock? Have you played Gears of War 2’s online? It is COMPLETELY BUSTED. Matchmaking issues, core gameplay mechanic issues, bugs, glitches, host issues, garbage p2p netplay…the list goes on. It is arguably WORSE than Gears of War 1’s online mode. And Cliffy B hyped it up to actually work this time. What a lie that was, huh?
I played KILLZONE 2’s beta and guess what? It actually worked! Now, since it was a beta, it wasn’t perfect, but it was certainly a heck of a lot more playable than Gears of War 2. That’s not an OPINION, that’s a FACT.
Some people put different weights and standards on online play than others, but for most hardcore shooter fans, it is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT issue. It *IS* the longevity of the title itself. And I would argue it should be scrutinized more than the single player portions of some games. Gears of War 2 had it ALL wrong, and none of the sites said a peep about it.
And it’s sad, too. KILLZONE 2 has a massively engaging online mode with a progression system, proper clan support, multiple classes and upgrades/perks, and dynamic gameplay modes with dedicated servers and up to 32 players online. It is a joy to play online and I can’t wait until the final version hits.
To say it is the same as Gears of War 2 does a disservice to the overall quality and package (that you equate the two as being roughly equal) of KILLZONE 2.
on January 15, 2009 1:57 am
Why post something like this? There is hype in Killzone because it surpassed expectations of the many.. The response people who played the beta EXTENSIVELY have all been positive unlike you who played it for a few minutes..
on January 15, 2009 1:58 am
@DAN
can u just quit your job please
I am a BETA tester of KZ2 . my psn is wasim007
I can say with pride that KZ2 MP blows everything away in terms of gameplay as well as graphics
You should be ashamed to even write an article like this. The final 4 stages of KZ2 just will blow you away . Yes the game is that good
Patrick you are greatly missed champ
all ripten has are editors which are bunch of xbots and buffoons. sorry had too
before talking trash please be aware that Killzone 2 beta floored 60,000 beta testers before going in the final stages
You have to be a rabid JAPAN HATER to give KZ2 something less than 10.
well most british are racists so yea i can see Killzone 2 getting less than 10 from those BRITS.
But this time controversial reviews wont deter people from buying the game
on January 15, 2009 1:58 am
Rotten and Allen,
Thanks for seeing my point amidst the sea of fanboys surrounding this article. And Allen, thank you for pointing out my ignorance. I’m sure Sony will sing from the rooftops when 3 of your friends buy PS3s. Of course people are going to always be buying systems and looking forward to new games, but I don’t think Killzone 2 is going to drastically increase sales. It’s not like I was saying that Killzone 2 will come out and NOBODY will buy a PS3 — that’s just silly.
on January 15, 2009 2:00 am
This site gave Gears 2 10/10 Wow! must be the perfect game! Even online is perfect with 32 players and dedicated servers? great!
on January 15, 2009 2:02 am
Wasim, you know Patrick is British, right? And Guerrilla is based in the Netherlands, not Japan. Your comment is full of retardedness.
on January 15, 2009 2:10 am
Wow, the Sony fanboys are out in full force on this one. As a completely innocent bystander with no opinion of Killzone 2, I would just like to say Fuck all you fanboys!
on January 15, 2009 2:10 am
Oh dan yet again you prove your ignorance.
Fisrt,your opinion =/= a fact.Period.
So saying “Killzone 2 will come out and no onw will buy a ps3,bullshit bullisht” is not a fact-you wanna live in your own dreamland-do it-but don’t force ppl to join you,so stop throwing bullshit here and there.
You said Gears of war 2 is overhyped even though you gave it a perfect socre-Makes you a hypocrite,amirite? ;)
oh and stop putting your shit on N4G to get hits.
on January 15, 2009 2:16 am
“Wasim, you know Patrick is British, right? And Guerrilla is based in the Netherlands, not Japan. Your comment is full of retardedness.”
That was a pure smack down.
“You have to be a rabid JAPAN HATER to give KZ2 something less than 10.”
Nothing but a pure fanboy comment. I doubt you’ve played any other shooters that were not on the PS3. I don’t think you’ve played Gears 2, because no one could be as big of a blind fanboy as you. You were probably saying these exact same comments about MGS 4, and now you look back at it, it wasn’t perfect. Same happened with Resistance 2.
on January 15, 2009 2:17 am
No, Allen, you’re not right. In fact, you prove to be even more retarded with every comment.
LEARN TO READ.
I said “It’s not like I was saying that Killzone 2 will come out and NOBODY will buy a PS3 — that’s just silly.” Not. Key word is NOT. Maybe you should reread that sentence a few times. Go ahead, I’ll wait…
Yes Gears 2 WAS overhyped and I didn’t give it a perfect score. I didn’t review the game — Chad Lakkis did. So no, that doesn’t make me a hypocrite because I didn’t give it a perfect score, Chad did.
In closing: moron. Thank you.
on January 15, 2009 2:18 am
Daniel-san brings the hammer!
on January 15, 2009 2:30 am
shut the fuk up u fag, this article is pure garbage. a bunch of faggot xbots
on January 15, 2009 2:30 am
@DAN
Patrick is British and Jewish –i know that but that guy had integrity unlike you.
Like i said you should be ashamed to write an article like this
@above
MGS4 got 10/10 from IGN and has a higher metacritic rating than Gears 2. In fact gears 2 got 8 from most european non-english websites which were not counted at meta
Gears2 ’s MP is simply colorless . there is not even a shade of color in Gears 2 MP.KZ2 blows away any shooter in every way
there are 60,000 beta testers and many owns x360 too. just ask for their opinions on the game
Guerilla is based in Holland but the british hate everyone except themselves . dont they?
on January 15, 2009 2:31 am
Nice article. I actually stop visiting N4G whenever any big game is about to release cos it’s over hyped to fucking oblivion out there.
I’ve played an early build of Killzone 2 myself and while I think the game is pretty impressive I hate the control scheme. I wondered if its improved since then…
on January 15, 2009 2:35 am
Haha says the guy who doesn’t own a PS3. Like it Dan, like it.
You don’t care about the game, because you don’t care about games you can’t play. How do you know it’s not a killer app?
on January 15, 2009 2:36 am
wasim, if you want to complain about MGS4 not getting a 10 from Ripten, blame Patrick. He wrote it, and yet you still love him and all his “integrity”. Maybe you just love the fact that he has a PS3 slant that you agree with. Even so, he is much more logical and objective than you’ll ever be.
Either way, I don’t see what the Gears 2 score has anything to do with this article. Perhaps you missed the point.
on January 15, 2009 2:39 am
And another thing. As far as I can tell, everyone is hyping the graphics – which ARE incredible. Nobody can doubt that. Developers are wishing they could achieve the kind of things GG have and they are all willing to learn at GDC 09. So what’s wrong with that? What if it is an incredible game to experience.
Plus this article reminds me of Gamezine’s “Will Killzone 2 web hype translate into real-world sales”. I liked that article better though…seemed to make more sense. They say there that IF Sony advertises and plays this right, the game should sell through the roof….because it has the videos and amazing footage to create real-world hype.
on January 15, 2009 2:40 am
Okay, call it a killer app if you want to, I don’t really care. Generally, a killer app is something that drives masses to buy the system and I don’t think Killzone 2 will do that. It might increase sales a little, but it isn’t going to be a killer app like Halo 3 was (even though it didn’t deserve a 10, it drove MILLIONS of people to get a 360). Will it be a must-own game if you have a PS3? Sure, but it’s still not the game to make you buy a PS3. If it were, I would be buying a PS3. Can’t argue with that logic ;)
on January 15, 2009 2:43 am
LOL This shit is funny as hell. These fanboys are fucking crazy. You write one opinionated article and they all go crazy on you Dan. Whatever, though. Just ignore them and if they aren’t down with Ripten they shouldn’t be on here. Tell ‘em to holla.
on January 15, 2009 2:48 am
@skeptics
KZ2’s gameplay is as incredible as the graphics. The MP is addictive like crack. ask any beta tester about this.
This guy DAN if i am not wrong also wrote an article on PS3 fans spoiling gears 2 at n4g.
now thats just pathetic. an editor taking sides but not unusual since PS3 being a japanese product is usually bashed by american and british media .
Halo3 didnt drive anyone anywhere to get an x360.
halo3 increased USA npd by 300k for its release month. but it totally bombed in europe and elsewhere
halo3 didnt even move 500k x360s worldwide.
another sign of your fanboyism.
x360 has reached 26 million consoles worldwide after 3 years even at 200$ price point.
halo3 moving millions??? that didnt even happen in USA not to mention elsewhere where x360 has no hold
on January 15, 2009 3:02 am
This reminds me of all the hype before the release of LBP. It was hyped by all the PS3 Fanboys as a system seller, this was also after a public beta which Fanboys raved about. After the launch of LBP we heard the fanboys change their tune to LBP having a long sales life instead of systems seller.
I find it hard to understand how people can hype a game so much when they havent even played it in its entirety.
I want KZ2 to be a great game as I like playing good games regardless of the platform, However I am a bit worried the hype will ruin it for me only time will tell.
Apolgise for any poor grammer or spelling I am quite toasted.
on January 15, 2009 3:03 am
DAN LANDIS AKA Debbie Downer. All your arguments mean jack sh!t and you really look stupid for writing this.. You know why??
1st off how can you even talk about this game when you haven’t even beaten the full game yet and spent time playing with the multiplayer??? From the few minutes i have seen i think this game deserves all the freaking hype behind it.. Have you ever seen a console game look this good?? No.. If you say yes please tell me what game.. Please hold your thoughts until you beat the game buddy.. Most sites hyping the game beat the final build. I think i would listen to them instead of some Jack a$$ who played it for a few minutes..
2nd off.. how can you base judgement on a game only getting to play it for a few minutes? thats like jerking off and not cumming. than you say you watched people play it.. You say your in the middle??? Middle of what?? YOU HAVENT BEATEN THE GAME YET!!!! How do you know if the game is super good or not???
3rd. You need to quit your job because i think your a psychic.. Please tell me why you think killzone 2 wont be a killer app and sell systems? You played the game for a few minutes you should know it all.. lol.. I can tell you this as a GAMER, this is my most hyped game ever.. MGS4 held that now killzone 2 does.. And i can tell you a lot of gamers will say the same thing..
Word of advise.. think before you post a dumb article like this.. this it what ruins a website like this.. get it together man..
on January 15, 2009 3:05 am
Even “toasted” Steveo has a clearer understanding than you fanboys, and he also makes an excellent point.
I fear for the youth…
on January 15, 2009 3:05 am
Well you’re redefining what a killer app is. Halo 3 in itself is an anomally, which is built on hardcore gamers who bought into the series when they risked everything by buying a new console, the Xbox. The Halo series is an anomally.
There are many other killer apps – which simply means they are triple A. Ie. really f*cking good.
That the game is a system seller is a very different thing. And KZ2 might very well sell a bunch of systems, in the same manner as MGS. What sales have to do with the amazing engine GG have been able to create, and it being a great game…is…well irrelevant.
on January 15, 2009 3:06 am
Nice stealth edit ;)
Anyways-you said that it won’t sell systems-are you from the future?nope, you’re not.Will it sell systems? Possible.I guess we’ll have to wait for NPD..oh wait,you follow VGchartz.
Your articles really give this site a bad name Mr.Dan.
on January 15, 2009 3:07 am
I completely agree with this article. I am so sick of going on N4G or IGN and seeing 5 new articles on killzone 2 everyday. Its ridiculous. I just ignore every article that I see about it now.
That said, I already made my mind up that I would buy it a long time ago.
Its pretty funny how so many comments here are just angry fanboys, but I do agree, gears of war 2 multi-player was a massive disappointment.
on January 15, 2009 3:08 am
And if you don’t want to buy the console that has the game with the best graphics (and possibly amazing gameplay), AND you haven’t even read any reviews for the game and have already made your mind up…then you are the definition of BIAS.
Wait for the reviews, give it a go to see how good it is and try not to feel embarrassed. Because really NOTHING will make you buy another console by the sounds of it.
on January 15, 2009 3:09 am
RIPTEN!!! Let me give you some GOOD ADVISE.. FIRE Dan Landis.. He will ruin this site.. He is a journalist NOT A GAMER!!!.. And he is a very bad journalist at that. You may have your big words you look up on “word perfect” but your thought process is like a 15 yr old fan boy. Everything you wrote is the article is based off a few minutes of playing a game and most likely playing the preview build.
Please take this down and someone at RIPTEN please beat the final game than post an article about it.
on January 15, 2009 3:12 am
We will post an article about it when that happens. It’ll be called a “review”.
on January 15, 2009 3:14 am
What stealth edit, Allen? I haven’t edited a single thing on this article or in the comments. Perhaps you just lack reading comprehension or just read what you wanted to read.
on January 15, 2009 3:16 am
Weird, the definition of a killer app is:
“a killer app is an application so compelling that someone will buy the hardware or software components necessary to run it.”
Essentially, a game that is so great it drives you to buy the system. I’m not redefining “killer app”, I’m using its actual definition. Maybe people just don’t understand what a killer app is in the first place.
on January 15, 2009 3:22 am
ok how the fuck is anyone in here going to say LBP and MGS4 were over hyped??? are you saying this because it didnt sell as many copies as the most over hyped game ever did?? HALO 3.
LBP definitely lived up to the hype.. maybe not the sells everyone expected but definitely on the gaming level.. but it is still selling well and i wouldnt call over a million sells for a new ip a bad thing.. the game is one of the best and its a damn good time when your super high.. the levels people create are something truly amazing too. no game is like it. the only people who hate on it have never played it.. you deserved to be slapped saying LBP didnt live up to the hype..
MGS4 is another game that lived up to the hype.. And i dont even think this game was hyped up that much to begin with.. i think everyone already knew this game was going to be good..
I see why the gaming media has gone done the drain..
Anyone who agree’s with this DAN guy is a idiot. dont feed into his sh!t because he works for a gaming website.. this guy has no freaking clue what he is talking about…
on January 15, 2009 3:27 am
It’s true. Msot of the wrdos in tihs cmmonet are mdae up.
on January 15, 2009 3:29 am
dan do you live in cali?? i would love to kick your fucking ass bro. I can tell you are one of those cocky mother fuckers. I would shut your ass up real quick..
You answered my post saying that will be in the review.. so how the fuck are you going to judge a game and say ur in the middle about how u feel about a game when you only played a few minutes of the game?? how are you even going to post this article and even talk about a game you havent even played??? I played the beta and think it was freaking awesome.. that doesnt mean anything until i play the full game..
dude your such a douche bag.. people like you are what makes us americans look like retards.. go back to school bro.. they didnt teach u shit..
on January 15, 2009 3:31 am
But YOU are saying it’s not a killer app because YOU won’t buy a PS3. But then NO PS3 game is a killer app, because you’ll never buy a PS3.
You wouldn’t even call MGS4 a killer app. So your opinion on whether it’s a killer app (especially when you haven’t played it, and are allergic to reading Killzone 2 articles, or watching its footage, cause you’re scared of it) is moot. Isn’t it?
on January 15, 2009 3:31 am
the definition of a dumbass: DAN LANDIS
on January 15, 2009 3:37 am
Fanboys scare me they really do, their blindness is known only by others, I once too was a fanboy but yet now I see clearly. Thanks Dan for an insightful article, you’re totally right that hype ruins games for us and that’s all you were trying to say, yet people turned it into a reason to fight, shame…
on January 15, 2009 3:38 am
Peace out everyone.. it was fun arguing.. dan on the real note though. dont jubge something until you beat the final game.. FULLY beat it. You cant judge a book by its cover..
You have a voice on the internet unlike us leaving you hateful comments. Your voice will be heard. Just think about what your write before you post it on the web. This article is lame. Even though its your opinion you make some fanboy statements you have no clue what your talking about. sales numbers and stuff.. come on man.. grow up.. One major thing too. Dont say you think a game is good but not that good when you only played a few minutes of it.. that doesnt make sense..
Goodnight.. Im still super hyped for killzone 2.. I cant wait until feb 27th mother FUCKERS!!! KILLZOWNNNN BABY..
on January 15, 2009 3:40 am
Congratulations to all of you who missed the point.
And John, I wish I lived in Cali but I don’t. It would be so awesome for you to kick my ass. You have huge Internet balls that I’m sure would disappear if we met in real life, and I’m sure you wouldn’t do anything to anyone. Take your idle threats elsewhere.
on January 15, 2009 3:41 am
Thanks for being the voice of reason, Marc.
on January 15, 2009 3:50 am
Are you serious? Just because YOU don’t like this game you think it wont be a system seller or killer app? It may or it may not who knows but of all the journalists who have played it pretty much all of them say it will knock your socks off and if that many people say it will then it probably is that great. If you have played the game for 5 minutes credible are you? Beat the game first at least. By even writing this what did you expect? If people want to be hyped by a game let them be hyped you dont need to spread all this negativity to this game.
on January 15, 2009 3:57 am
Pfft, are YOU serious? Learn to read:
“As far as first-person shooters go, Killzone 2 is great — some might even go so far as to say it’s fantastic.”
Maybe you skipped that line.
I’m not saying Killzone 2 will be bad, far from it. People are putting a whole lot of “this is the best game in the world” statements out there, and I’m just warning people that those levels of hype are going to lead to disappointment if it doesn’t turn out to be the best game in the world.
Haven’t you ever watched a movie that your friend said was the best movie ever, and then you were like “really?” because you expected more? That’s the problem with hype. That’s what I’m warning against. This was meant to be a public service announcement, but instead all these fanboys are spewing retardedness because they can’t read and can’t be objective.
on January 15, 2009 4:04 am
Hey Dan Just wanted to chime in here. I do fully understand you have an opinion on the KZ2 and as a writer are expected to express it in the public eye, but bashing people who have a different opinion or who may be bashing you is just unprofessional man. If you put out an opinion out, there will always be a backlash being able to handle that without lashing out may be the better option. What I want to know not having played either KZ2 or GOW2 is if the online is said to be soo bad (According to many Sites and blogs) how can it be equal to KZ2 which is said to be so good (According to many beta testers and sites). Humm If one is good the other is bad how can they then be equal. Just thought you could clarify a little. Also if you felt the same for a game you spent maybe 30 mins playing and had the same satisfaction of a game you completed revealing the whole story line then what does that truly say about the games? Me personally I played the demo of Bioshock and thought mehh its ok but after playing the full game and revealing the full story made it one of my all time favorites. My point is KZ2 may be the best thing ever it may not also, but begging people not to hype it or discounting it as not a system seller is a little silly since it hasn’t had its day yet. Sorry this was so long Sir you may go back to enjoying your system of choice now.
on January 15, 2009 4:09 am
By system of choice i think he means xbox.
on January 15, 2009 4:11 am
I’m with Dan on this one. None of you people seem to be getting the point of the article. what I believe he is trying to say is that, this game will be amazing, and I know it will but if you fucking idiots keep over-hyping it your going to put people off buying it.
I am a BETA tester for Killzone 2 and have been since october 2008 so i can honestly say that yes this game is amazing. I also own an Xbox 360 and i play Gears Of War 2 frequently. That is also an amazing game. Though Gears Of War 2 comes no where near close in graphics and does not have as good of a story line as Killzone 2 does, they still offer an equal ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. As Dan has said before.
Obviously Killzone 2 will sell a lot of PS3’s but it will not be a huge console mover. it may shift another 100,000 consoles worldwide at the most, on launch week. then throughout time it may sell another 100,000. thats it. there is good reason for this as well. Sony DO NOT and WILL NOT advertise. I dont know why but there advertisement team seems to lack logic.
Last point I’m making today is, why the fuck do you Little kids even give a shit about this? first of all its an 18 certificate game so you should not be playing it anyway. secondly, it should not effect your life in anyway. Why do you seem to believe that it does? You will not be making money out of the sales. you will still have say 2,000,000 people to play against online and you will still have a great game to play whether any one else does or not. So shutup go to school and get your education instead of worrying about Sony’s finances all day.
on January 15, 2009 4:21 am
mr.selfdestruct, the games to me do not live or die based on the multiplayer. I personally haven’t spent much time in Gears 2 muultiplayer, and I don’t really care to. KZ2’s multiplayer could be better, but maybe Gears 2 single player is better. What’s the point? They’re two completely different things, but the multiplayer is all you guys are focusing on in these comments so far. Why is that?
I usually also think games are not as good once I beat them. No matter how good a story is, it loses some appeal once I know everything. There is no mystery, no suspense, no more excitement. The game is over. The feeling of “what’s gonna happen next?” is better than the feeling of knowing what happens. That’s why people hate spoilers.
But again, that’s completely separate from the multiplayer. Maybe Killzone 2 has significantly better multiplayer, but that doesn’t make the overall package superior.
And I don’t see how you can even bring up the idea of “opinion” when all of these people are telling me that I’m flat-out wrong comparing Gears 2 and Killzone 2 because Killzone 2 is so obviously the best game ever made. I’m a garbage journalist for not knowing that as a fact and writing at least 15 articles about it. I’m so ashamed.
on January 15, 2009 4:25 am
Thank you, WOMBLE62, for being an intelligent person. The world needs more Wombles.
on January 15, 2009 4:31 am
Mr. Landis.
I came to this article with the initial expectation of a balanced and logical view of why gamers need to calm down referring to hype in general, but of course – in this particular case – about KillZone 2.
I’d like to say I think you totally missed the ball and missed a great opportunity with your article.
The first thing you should have done – not the last – the first, was to freely admit that the hype around Halo 3, Gears 2 and GTA 4 was too much, even though they were good games. You should have stated that those particular NAMES / TITLES ensure there will be hype due to the franchise.
You should not have given any mention as to whether any of those games is better than any other – as it has got nothing to do with the modern day ‘hype’ phenomenon.
The second thing you should have done was written your piece about KillZone 2 and stated as follows. KillZone 2 is an awesome game, people are going to buy it and people are going to buy PS3’s to play it. You know that’s the truth.
The third and final thing you should have done is you should have said that as great as KillZone 2 is – the hype for the game started in the first week of January and we’ve still got another 6 weeks to go before the game is released. Whether the game is awesome or not, some people are going to get a little tired of the constant buzz and that everyone needs to have a rest so the buzz can kick up again a bit sooner the time, instead of every single day….. You might have just suggested that people might want to switch off for a while, but not for too long and to come back again soon when there’s some great new info.
For you to come out and say KillZone 2 is not worth the hype, doesn’t merit or warrant it, doesn’t deserve the attention – is to fly in the face of modern day behaviour, it is to fly in the face of what GTA4, Halo 3 and Gears 2 all received. Should KillZone 2 receive any less attention – for being a better (or in your view – equal) game?
For this reason – and I’m now a little riled, your opinion with me has lost some respect, so I’ll be wary of what you have to say in future… Other posters here will label you a X360 fanboy and a hater, even if that’s not true – many now think it is. You’ve messed up your chance to say the right thing in this situation and really you ought to rewrite your piece properly by way of an apology to all the video gaming fans who bother to visit this site.
Whatever ensues in these comments – you’ve brought it upon yourself.
Have a great day.
on January 15, 2009 4:35 am
No dude people are upset because your telling them they shouldn’t get excided because they will “be let down” not because you don’t like the game. If you don’t like it so what but please don’t asume because you don’t everyone else won’t as well. Maby you should leave the Public Service Announcements to Eminem His were at least entertaining. Peace, Fleece, and Chicken Grease! aka latter all
on January 15, 2009 4:41 am
@ mr.selfdestruct
“Maby” you should go to school so there is a possibility that “maby” you will learn how to write in english instead of bugging people on this website all day. Do you think that “maby” that is a possibility? “Maby” you should try it instead of being here.
on January 15, 2009 4:43 am
Just wanted to say thanks Dan, for a moment of sanity in the horrific hype/cynicism cycle that seems to rule every big game release ever. It’s nice to see some one speaking out against the hype rather than adding more fuel to the fire. :)
on January 15, 2009 4:44 am
Don’t know why I have to keep repeating myself, but I DO LIKE THE GAME. I THINK THE GAME IS GREAT. I JUST DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO BUY TOO MUCH INTO THE HYPE.
People should be excited, just not TOO excited. It’s a common occurrence for people to be overhyped and end up disappointed because of it. I gave GTA4 as an example. I’m just warning that all of these articles around the ‘net hyping up Killzone 2 might get gamers’ expectation up TOO HIGH. THAT’S IT.
Geez… From now on, I will write my articles at a 5th grade level so there’s less confusion.
on January 15, 2009 4:46 am
Titch the thing is he IS adding more fuel to the fire. Whatever his intentions if this many people are hyped on this games fanboys will go crazy whenever people talk about it in a way they dont like. Im sure he knows this and did it anyways.
on January 15, 2009 4:46 am
Thanks, Titch. It’s nice to know there are some logical people left on the Internet.
And LordVonPS3, I appreciate your criticism, but your name makes me slightly weary of your true intentions.
on January 15, 2009 4:49 am
Wow, thanks for pointing out a typo without adding anything of value to the conversation. MAYBE you should stay on topic instead of being rude. Well just a thought buddy.
on January 15, 2009 4:52 am
It did have value you retard. I helped you how to spell MAYBE. thats value right there. and as to sticking to topic MAYBE you should read my other comment. Oh and you spelt “latter” wrong aswell. jus letting you know “buddy”
on January 15, 2009 4:57 am
@ Mr.Landis.
Forget the name and read my post because the great thing about it is that it makes a lot more sense than what you’ve written.
If you are indeed a neutral gaming fan, you’d understand that everything I’ve written goes for Pokemon, Mario (any), The Dark Knight and everything else that gets hyped in this world.
Perhaps your article was always intended to be “fanboy” in nature and your writings are only to stir the fans. If that’s the case, you’ve shown your colours and wasted my time. For that – I hope you have to put up with KillZone 2 news every hour of every day until it launches.
You Sir – have been KillZoned.
on January 15, 2009 4:59 am
LordVonPS3 im pretty sure he did it to stir up the fanboys.
on January 15, 2009 4:59 am
Yes, the world needs more WOMBLE62 and Mr. Landis why can’t you write like him? At least he shows respect and empathy to us downtrodden PS3 gamer. Is your job up for grabs because I know someone better and his name is WOMBLE62.
on January 15, 2009 5:03 am
Thanks for the praise Mike M. As much as I would love the job Dan can keep it :P I already work for a magazine anyway.
on January 15, 2009 5:13 am
That hurts, Mike. And downtrodden PS3 gamers? Umm…
My job is always up for grabs. Send Chad an email.
on January 15, 2009 5:26 am
@womble
Look I can do it to, first of all I is capitalized. I learned that in 1st grade and you missed that. Ohh and thats is a contraction of that is spelled that’s so now who’s the retard Mr. high and mighty. If you don’t like what I have to say too bad but don’t try to act like your perfect because YOU FAIL!
on January 15, 2009 5:29 am
I never said that I was perfect, I just said that you could not spell “maybe”. I have no idea where you have got this idea of me being perfect. and you probably had to go and look all that grammar stuff up because you took long enough to reply.
on January 15, 2009 5:35 am
WOW!! busy day at Ripten.
LMFAO at this thread, thanks to all.
Always remember… no one wins on the internet.
PC-GAMER signing off.
on January 15, 2009 5:36 am
I’m sorry I’m bored of your stupid comments with no value to this article please stop your embarrassing yourself.
on January 15, 2009 5:39 am
well I’m signing off anyway to go to my job. I’m an assistant editor at What Digital Camera? Magazine. Goodbye mr spelling king. thats why I have a job that pretty much revolves around grammar and you dont.
on January 15, 2009 5:46 am
I’m sorry I realize my last post has your instead of you’re and your last comment has dont instead of don’t but like you said your job revolves around it mine doesn’t yet you are so condescending God you really suck so bad. So really I’m out.
on January 15, 2009 5:55 am
I think most of the people here missed Dan’s point. I’m hyped about Killzone 2 as well but I don’t think it’ll rule the universe or something. I think his point is that you shouldn’t set yourself up for too MUCH hype or you could end up getting disappointed in the end.
I don’t agree, however that this game won’t move consoles because it does have the potential to do that.
I’d wish other journalists had said the same thing about Halo and Gears of War because those games were HYPED TO DEATH and so were their sequels.
Interesting read Dan.
on January 15, 2009 6:04 am
LOL I love to see how xbox360 fanboys are so jealous and so nervous. now I can see xbox360 fanboys playing halo3 and gears2 crying for killzone2 screaming ” but teh attach rate” “but teh price” and xbox360 journalist fanboys saying “but Killzone2 don’t move systems” “but killzone2 is not going to convert xbox owners” “but killzone2 is too gamey” please you journalist fanboys are an embarassement for the gaming industry.
on January 15, 2009 6:07 am
why stop the hype Killzone 2 is goin to be great. And whoever thinks different is fuckn stupid
on January 15, 2009 6:54 am
Oh dear Dan Landis, your article has really caused a stir. Well done for that at least. The article sucks though – bringing a game that is the best in it’s class down to a level of mediocrity.
That’s what has riled 99% of people here. Killzone 2 is something very special, anyone looking at it can see that.
You really should get that Xbox out of your butt and face facts – the Xbox is starting to look a bit dated.
on January 15, 2009 7:00 am
True, Killzone2 is just a game, but a game that has been hyped since 2005. A game that has bettered the CG trailer shown back in 2005. Come on dudes, that’s exciting – it’s a break through. BRING ON THE HYPE – this is a special occasion.
on January 15, 2009 7:39 am
I prefer Patrick’s writing style over this crap.
And by the way, where was Ripten when Gears, GTA4 & Halo3 where getting hyped to the heavens? Oh yeah, they where on the hype train as well.
At least Patrick would have approached this article with more class.
on January 15, 2009 8:15 am
Hi Dan
I think the reason so many folks are slinging hate in your direction and calling you all sorts of terrible names is because by telling people they shouldn’t get too excited you are effectively being pessimistic. Why should you protect people from their excitement and passion for something? People in general do not take kindly to being told how to feel about something. I think you are generally trying to be fair and I believe what you wrote about KZ2 is exactly how you feel, nothing more, but I also think you really aren’t much of a fan of the First Person Shooter Genre. Some people think Final Fantasy will be the second coming, but for me I’m not a big RPG fan so that game doesn’t excite me. I would never tell an RPG fan to manage their hype for that game. Your article kills that little bit of excitement and emotion that people really want to feel for this game. I personally don’t understand why people can’t shout from the rooftops “best game ever!” I don’t think people need to be protected from being let down. For some people this game will be a triple AAA title. For others Killzone 2 will be just a pretty first person shooter, but I still don’t see what good it does you or Ripten to manage peoples expectations for them. When a review appears from your site then people will known how and why you came to your conclusions about the game. In the meantime for everyone who is a fan of first person shooters why not let the kids have their fun? Why rain on the parade? If you care about being objective as I feel any good journalist should, then I’d be careful telling passionate gamers how passionate they should be. Also it comes off as flame bait when you admit to not having played the game extensively and not being a PS3 owner at all. To those calling Dan all these terrible names, please stop, you’re embarrassing yourselves. You can respectfully disagree with someone without “owning” or “pwning” them.
Thanks for reading my very long post.
Cal
on January 15, 2009 8:28 am
This article had so much potential because i was also one of those really dissapointed with GTA4 and Halo but it ended up reading like a fanboy rant.
You cant play a game for a few minutes and tell ppl its not the next best thing. Who would have thought after playing COD4 for 5 minutes 15 months ago that it would have been the next best thing? It might not be the next big thing but honestly how can you know? By all means ask us totone down the hype so we dont dissapoint ourselves but dont become analytical when you dont get paid for it. Leave that job to Michael Pachter please. Even he isnt very good at it when it comes to forecasting events in the gaming indytry.
The second problem i have with the article are the comments about it not being a game that would make Xbox 360 owners go out and by a PS3? WTF? Since when were gamers relegated to xbox 360 owners? Why cant the console sell to the 150 million PS2 install base or the almost 50 mill Wii base? Are you that deluded to believe that a games success dwells on what Xbox 360 owners do and weather or not they go out and buy the console?
I get where you were going with the hype train but this article just seems like flamebait so please bring back some integrity to gaming journalism which is seriously lacking this day and age because it doesnt bode well for the gaming industry if our journalists are also ridiculed and called immature by the press like the general global gaming community is. Theres the flipside where there are a great many a-hole comments in the comments section calling you all manner of ugly things showing them for their lack of immaturity but why do you feel the need to descend into their lunacy and calling them retards and such?
Seriously bvring back some journalistic integrity cause you guys are the first to shape the minds of children in the media insutry so i wonder if youve ever really considered that!
on January 15, 2009 8:48 am
well, it doesnt need hype, it wont sell systems, its a typical shooter. but its not the ppl who are hyping it, its the review sites/game magazines that are hyping it, because they know what killzone is all about.
but hey mister i think it is the only genre in gaming that move consoles at high rate. if you want something other than shooter i can bet you not a single game that we heard of or is still in rumours going to sell consoles(western market).
i think sony didnt send you the review code. thats y u are bitter. dont worry bro we’ll have it in due time.
on January 15, 2009 8:48 am
Dear Dan,
Thanks for your opinion on KZ2. I believe your article is really a good piece. You have to realize, however that your words have more weight than the average posters because you’re apart of the gaming press. So when you say things people want you to justify them a bit more. Like you saying Killzone 2 is not a “Killer App” is pure opinion not fact am I right?? Cause it’s quite Facetious, I mean can you honestly say its not a
“Killer App,” No. And if you can, could you make your statement more clear. Also you should wait to judge Killzone 2 and Gears 2 entertainment Value until you’ve completed both games single-player campaigns and spent a reasonable amount of time in both games multi-player components
on January 15, 2009 8:56 am
I don’t remember you writing articles like this one for Halo 3 or GeoW 2… Then why did wrote one for Killzone 2?
Halo 3 even had its advertisements on the freaking Mountain Dew bottles and in some other fast food! That’s what defines Hype for god’s sake and I never saw anybody writing things like this for that game.
Right now, Killzone 2 doesn’t even has the same amount of Hype as Halo 3 or GeoW 2 had…
on January 15, 2009 9:00 am
Correction: Right now, Killzone 2 doesn’t even has half the Hype as Halo 3 or GeoW 2 had… Ripten rated Halo 3 and GeoW 2 with 10’s, something I don’t see happening with Killzone 2. So what’s the problem? You probably gonna rate it with an 8 or something. I can bet my ****.
on January 15, 2009 9:16 am
I’m not going to get into it too much here, but can I ask you something Dan? Was Halo 3 a system seller? Was Gears 1 and or Gears 2 a system seller? Did any of those games convince PS3 owners to buy a 360? Did any of those games convince PS2 owners to buy a 360? I really do think they did. So when you say Killzone 2 won’t be a system seller or make 360 owners buy a PS3… Why do you say that when you say that they are the same quality as Killzone 2? Especially if they are the same quality, but Killzone 2 obviously has better visuals? Just curious. That makes the least sense to me.
I’m not saying it’s going to quadruple sales for the month, but sure this game with all the hype will move some systems for sure (yes, hype moves games and systems. You said Halo 3 was overhyped and was Gears. That moved systems)
on January 15, 2009 9:16 am
Killzone 2 should be hyped up man, sorry…just like god of war 3 and all kinds of games will be…ps3 is starting to roll up its sleeves…let us be hyped!!!
on January 15, 2009 9:24 am
this website must be starved of hits, hence this senseless article.
KZ2 will be the best console shooter period, it will eclipse Halo 3, better than COD4 and its an exclusive to PS3 —- XBOX 360 will just RROD when they hear KZ2 playing !!!!
on January 15, 2009 9:38 am
I understand the point of the article but, why tell us gamers not to be hyping this game up because we might be dissapointed. Who cares? He only play the game for a few minutes so that gives him the right to tell us not to hype this game. Why? That’s the point of getting excited about a game building the hype to either be dissapointed or enjoy the game when it comes out. So as far as telling us not to hype the game that my friend makes look bias to a system whether you are or not.
on January 15, 2009 9:56 am
Please Everyone if time permits read “Calactyte” POST 2posts above MINE. INSIGHT @ its Best.
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Dear Mr Landis,
I dont entirely disagree with your article, but even you have to admit somewhat that you may have not portrayed all your comments in the right fashion or maybe your intentions were to actually stir up fanboyism (bcos ofcourse u knew the sh*tstorm u were goin to get with this) or maybe it was simply for hits (hey not been disrespectful, its noble to do that, Ripten did hired u to do that somewhat right?).
Whatever your reason Mr.Dan, you definitely portrayed your ever so noble points in a lets-say UnRight manner (U know what I mean). Dont mean to tell u your job but please for the sake of the industry believe in Games even if it hasnt been released yet/ looks incredible/ or is OVERHYPED/ especially if you havent played the final build (which I am guessing you havent).
I am no fanboy, I bought all 360/PS3/Wii in their inception.
+++ One last thing: Since every one is throwing “Opinions”- which means “To Each His Own” definition thx to Matt0611 above. I feel like My Opinion is this:-
ALTHOUGH IT IS EVERYONES CHOICE TO OVERHYPE A GAME, AND CHOICE SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN FROM ANYONE..AND ALTHOUGH OVERHYPED GAMES (MAY) BE PROSPECTIVELY DETRIMENTAL (e.g. LBP)
–I really think articles like this do more harm than good to “awesome” games (e.g LBP) than overhyping will ever do.
PS: Mr. Dan Landis, Still Love your 10 Best Asses in Videogames Article lol
JAKESPLACE out.
on January 15, 2009 10:20 am
Wow. You can feel the passion in people’s comments over here. As terms of what your article, I respect your opinion Dan but don’t completely agree with it. I do feel that overhyping KZ2 is a bad thing BUT that can apply to almost any game as it will set impossible expectations. However I do believe that gear2 and KZ2 will provide different experiences due to the little details that Guerilla Games decided to focus on. So many industry people with the review code seem to think so. Also, I do believe people on both extremes of the fence are the problem are going overboard…. to say KZ2 is like any other shooter is just WRONG, just as saying KZ2 will redefine shooters is somewhat WRONG. What nobody can deny though is that KZ2 will set a new standard in terms of attention to detail in the game design of shooters.
I have not played the game or even the demo but read enough articles, know industry people who played it and saw enough video to make a fairly balanced statement of what this game brings to the table. I am getting it for sure… will even pre-order it to get the demo. I am pretty hyped on the game. All that being said and done I do think its going to be pretty hard justifying any score lower than 9/10 if this plays well, look amazing and has a good multiplayer especially with the scores Resistance 2, Gears2 and Halo3 got. My Two Cents.
on January 15, 2009 10:22 am
The irony! It’s too much! We cannae take it, cap’n!
Still, it’s good to see a good amount of non-idiots in this thread.
Oh, and
wasim
“well most british are racists”
Fuck you.
on January 15, 2009 10:29 am
I see I came late to this party. To me Killzone 2 looks like a great game. I have already pre-ordered it and got my demo code. (blah) But, Like I said before, I’m a FPS and CG whore. this has both and I am looking forward to it. As for being a killer, console moving game. Sure, it may move a bunch of PS3’s but, It is not going to tip the scales and put the PS3 on top. Games make the console and this year looks like a banner year for the PS3. with the great exclusives and a rumored possible price drop. I can see the PS3 start to close the gap with it’s rival. once you have the games and you add all the extras and a nice price drop the PS3 will be most desirous. especially because it is so much more than a gaming console.
on January 15, 2009 10:31 am
Wow the sony fanboys are really riled up today. They’re a really touchy bunch.
IMO, the game looks good but it was overhyped from the second the faked “realtime” trailer was debuted at E3. That set expectations waay too high.
on January 15, 2009 10:45 am
I think Sony is to blame for all of the Killzone 2 hype. Back in 2005, when they first showed what the ps3 would look like they showed that Killzone 2 video yet said it was real (even though there were no dev kits even made at that time). So, from that moment on, anything KZ2 related was a draw for people who were wanting to see if it could live up to the visuals of that video. Of course, that is just my own humble opinion.
on January 15, 2009 11:13 am
wasim: I am not Jewish, I am British, I am not racist.
Thanks for the ‘compliments’, but Dan and me are different people with a differing style. His overarching message is respectable, even if you don’t agree with his delivery.
Thanks Firewire.
on January 15, 2009 11:22 am
Hey, just wanted to chime in and stand by some top-notch journalism. It’s not often you see someone stand by their words at all, let alone against pages of idiotic ranting.
Personally, I wish the article went further. Killzone 1 was to PS2 what Brute Force was to Xbox- overhyped and ultimately mediocre on all levels. For Killzone 2 to suddenly be a “killer app” either shows the gullibility of Sony fans, or the desperation of the platform. Sure, it might turn out to be a great game, but seriously- how much hype would Brute Force 2 really generate?
But hey, I’m personally biased and I admit that. Kudos again on the article and the follow-up. I’d only caution that a bit more professionalism couldn’t hurt in that job retention thing. Calling readers retarded, while hilarious, probably isn’t in line with the job description.
on January 15, 2009 11:28 am
I agree with calderra.. except about the last part. If someone’s being a retard, feel free to point that out. It’s always nice to see a gaming site run by people who aren’t goddamn machines always sticking to the “professional” script.
on January 15, 2009 11:51 am
WoW,my shit-o-meter is going to explode,dear internet,I’m ashamed of you.Douchebagness among commenters is dangerously getting close to Tom Cruise levels;that usually happens when you have so little empathy that you make a Holy War out of a leisure consumer product.
Grow some soul,kids.
I agree with the article in question,I for one felt insulted with the 2005 KZ cooked footage,but nevertheless,I’m still interested in the final product because guerrilla worked so hard that the result is a game I would have wanted anyway despite the hype.
-back to pixeljunk monsters-
on January 15, 2009 12:09 pm
At no point in time did I ever claim to be professional ^_^
on January 15, 2009 12:14 pm
I just want to say that I BELIEVE killzone 2 will sell systems, I was an xbot just a few months ago but four broken 360s later,and a few calls to microsoft have changed all that.I went out and got a ps3 just because i knew it was the more dependable system, but after seing killzone 2 in action I went straight to gamestop and preordered it.The funny thing is all my friends from xbox liveare going out to by a ps3 JUST FOR KILLZONE 2 the only problem is I dont think sony is marketing it very well since none of my friends had even heard of killzone 2 till I told them about it…It will convert xbots trust me, embrace the future, step over those fanboy lines and join in the fun…The water is FINE..
on January 15, 2009 12:16 pm
Wow, that was a good read
( the comments )
on January 15, 2009 12:47 pm
One day Dan you may have to say something kind about the PS3…not today though eh? Where’s the
‘Dear Internet, Enough of the Pointless PS3 Slagging Already!’ headline hmmm? …i guess not from you or ripten, after all it’s tough for many of you…umm,er, gaming ‘journalists’.. to bear any sort of positive hype over a PS3 tile gaining momentum. It goes against the hip ‘consensus’ amongst those savvy internet ‘reporters’ that anything PS3 = Epic Fail. I mean it’s failing right??… i mean come on, it’s a failure and it isn’t selling & none of the games are selling cuz they’re failing & blu-ray, well, thats just failing on every level.and, and….Killzone2 must be an overhyped failure too…and..and…
OK look Dan, here’s how we’re gonna work this, step away from the laptop & go get your shinebox.
on January 15, 2009 12:59 pm
Okay, but I’m not using a laptop.
As far as not wanting PS3 titles gaming momentum and not defending PS3 at all, I refer you to this article:
http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/15/littlebigplanet-sales-not-that-great-no-shit/
Thanks, but you are wrong.
on January 15, 2009 1:12 pm
Even though I have no formal association with ripten I would like to kindly invite all the whiners to fuck right off. If you don’t like this site so much, instead of bitching about every article that doesn’t suck Kaz Hirai’s dick you can just leave and spare yourself the stress.
Nobody will agree with any gaming site 100% of the time but this is just silly.
on January 15, 2009 1:18 pm
Dear Mr Landis,
I dont entirely disagree with your article, but even you have to admit somewhat that you may have not portrayed all your comments in the right fashion or maybe your intentions were to actually stir up fanboyism (bcos ofcourse u knew the sh*tstorm u were goin to get with this) or maybe it was simply for hits (hey not been disrespectful, its noble to do that, Ripten did hired u to do that somewhat right?).
Whatever your reason Mr.Dan, you definitely portrayed your ever so noble points in a lets-say UnRight manner (U know what I mean). Dont mean to tell u your job but please for the sake of the industry believe in Games even if it hasnt been released yet/ looks incredible/ or is OVERHYPED/ especially if you havent played the final build (which I am guessing you havent).
I am no fanboy, I bought all 360/PS3/Wii in their inception.
+++ One last thing: Since every one is throwing “Opinions”- which means “To Each His Own” definition thx to Matt0611 above. I feel like My Opinion is this:-
ALTHOUGH IT IS EVERYONES CHOICE TO OVERHYPE A GAME, AND CHOICE SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN FROM ANYONE..AND ALTHOUGH OVERHYPED GAMES (MAY) BE PROSPECTIVELY DETRIMENTAL (e.g. LBP)
–I really think articles like this do more harm than good to “awesome” games (e.g LBP) than overhyping will ever do.
PS: Mr. Dan Landis, Still Love your 10 Best Asses in Videogames Article lol
JAKESPLACE out.
on January 15, 2009 1:21 pm
Cookigaki does not agree with Ripten 100% but almost always agrees with Daniel-san. Daniel-san very smart man.
on January 15, 2009 1:27 pm
JAKESPLACE, you said that already! For the record, I agree 100% about the hype. It’s getting out of hand! I want the game and everything but I’m sick of all these articles telling us how awesome it’s going to be. We get it, alright!? I already preordered it, but I’m honestly getting annoyed by all of these people telling me how much I’m going to love it. Let the game come out and let me decide for myself, OK?
on January 15, 2009 2:45 pm
Lol. Landis. Sigh. You are overreacting just as much as a PS3 fanboy. In fact, you have all the makings of a 360 fanboy yourself, drudging up sales figures. Oh well. Ripten used to be respectable. USED to be.
on January 15, 2009 3:09 pm
Well I’m sure Sony doesn’t care how well their games score if they don’t sell well. Anyone who thinks sales don’t matter is just plain naive.
And Ripten was never respectable ^_^
on January 15, 2009 3:16 pm
I think I’m going to start talking like the Elcor from Mass Effect so that I don’t have to use stupid emoticons.
on January 15, 2009 3:40 pm
The ammount of idiots in this article is unbelievable. (not you ripton)
on January 15, 2009 3:53 pm
this kid dan is a complete retard whose mother fucked a donkey and then had him.where was all this “cry me a river” about hype when gaylo 3 was coming out?that shit had me mad ass hell.i think dan should be banned from posting garbage like this on n4g,it was a waste of my time reading this shit. p.s. i would love to kick this retards ass then spit in his face when he’s knocked out from my fists
on January 15, 2009 4:10 pm
anyone who agrees with dan the douche is just a xtwat who secretly would love for killzone 2 to be on there shitty crapbox.and go to bed at night praying to god that the articles they read about ps3 being finished are true.
on January 15, 2009 4:15 pm
someone should take that microsoft penis out this kid dans mouth,kz2 equal to geow2?
on January 15, 2009 4:53 pm
killzone 2 will be a good game therefore, it should be getting the hype its been getting. just look at how it plays! intense, gritty, and action packed! but that doesnt mean it’ll be perfect… just look at LBP one hell of a exclusive! but the release date f’ed it up along with some fixable glitches. enough of my explanation go ahead hype the game its the fanboys fault “console wars” were created!
on January 15, 2009 5:38 pm
I agree that hype can damage impressions and expectations of a game for people. I don’t agree with “Killzone 2 is not going to move systems. Killzone 2 is not going to convert Xbox owners.” This is flame bait, hence the flaming. It will likely move some systems and it may convince some Xbox 360 people that the PS3 is relevant. That is all.
on January 15, 2009 5:53 pm
Damn, 123 posts.
Dan, you really know how to get the ps3 fangirl’s panties all in a bunch!
The game looks,,, just ok to me. I don’t see anything special.
on January 15, 2009 6:27 pm
Wow, Landis. You are even more of an idiot than I thought you were! Good job. Fanboy.
on January 15, 2009 6:46 pm
Go Dan!!!!
on January 15, 2009 6:52 pm
Dan rules. I love your ability to rile these sony fanboys up. It’s endlessly amusing :D
on January 15, 2009 6:56 pm
And it continues. If you as a reader are not happy with the type of opinions we provide you are free to share your own. I would hope that one thing you find here, regardless of whether you agree with our opinions or not on a case by case basis, is that you are able to interact with our writers in a a way that very few sites allow.
Dan, Patrick, and I (as Patrick said) are all different in opinions and perspectives, however it strikes me as strange that a self admitted Patrick Supporter didn’t take the time to comment on his recent review, but takes the time to comment several times on Dan’s opinion piece.
Our job is to sample content and cover news — we then share that information with you and include a bit of ourselves with each piece. If you don’t like it, stick to press releases.
Chad-
on January 15, 2009 6:58 pm
Just leave Dan alone! This is an opinion piece. He feels that there is too much hype. I cannot disagree with that, the hype is so thick that it is palatable. But, I think that a good portion is warranted, the game looks great, better than anything I have seen on ANY console thus far (FPS-wise). For example of opinion, it is my opinion that Halo 3 was an “OK” FPS I think that it’s effects sound field was poorly executed and that the weapons did not have a good solid satisfying feel, for an example of how weapons are done right, just play BF: Bad company. The Videos I have seen from Killzone 2 “seems” to follow the BF:BC style of sound direction, deep punchy effects. But, seeing that KZ2 is a few years newer that Halo 3 It would be unfair to compare.
on January 15, 2009 7:06 pm
Well Dan Landis you have made it clear that you did not review gears of war and that in your opinion it was over hyped to. Then were is your opinion piece on gears 2 you don’t think that was over hyped freakin toys everywhere, commercials everywhere. You know there is a big difference between the hype gears got and Killzone is getting. People are hyping killzone because they are excited about it. Gears got hyped by Microsoft paying to have it hyped. I actually read your article because I thought you might have Intelligent to say, like sometimes over hyping a game can dull there nerves and have a negative effect, but after reading it you JUST sound like another boring tool looking for flame bait and got it. Note please note that everyone has there opinion But you deserve to get beat over the head because you express yours like you are a journalist. Your nothing but a TOOL
on January 15, 2009 8:47 pm
“Killzone 2 is not going to cure cancer or resurrect the dead.”
– And I was going to buy it just for that!
Over hyping won’t do KZ2 any good! Similar to the stories of the PS3’s demise, the Internet, along with misguided opinions, can do much harm.
For me, what I do is I always stop reading previews about a game just before it comes out. It increases excitement and anticipation. Heck, I even close my eyes at the movie theater during the previews and teasers!
I seriously, recommend this for both games and movies!
on January 15, 2009 9:05 pm
WOW, some people posting shouldn’t be allowed to. Wasim… i dont know what to say…
Stop hating, he’s just stating an opinion, its not like he’s talking bad about the ps3.
The reason this probably won’t be a major system seller is because Sony doesn’t advertise enough. Dan has valid points, and why are you being intimidated about someone’s opinion that says NOTHING bad?
on January 15, 2009 10:08 pm
The reason, Bagat, is because they are fanboys.
CRAZYSPYDER, if you are ever in the New Jersey area, let me know. I love it when people spit on me and “knock me out from their fists”.
on January 15, 2009 10:38 pm
“PS3 supporters are behind this one for one reason only:
The system NEEDS this game to be a quality exclusive. There needs to be an example to point to when saying, “The PS3 is worth owning for (insert that stellar title here).”
I just watched the gameplay video for this game and I’m just curious, is everyone REALLY convinced that this game is going to be absolutely incredible? I’ve been playing games since I won my Atari 2600 from Cap’n Crunch, I’ve been around the block and frankly, this doesn’t look like anything groundbreaking, at least not how the zealots are making it out to be. Nice graphics? Sure but just in case you haven’t realized this, GRAPHICS AREN’T EVERYTHING.
It’s one thing to support whatever system you choose to follow but its another thing to do so blindly and in a manner that only hurts rather than supports your candidate. The hype behind this game is so ridiculous that we’ve reached the point of no return. There’s no way that this game will be the end-all, be-all shooter for all times. There’s no way that this game can live up to the hype that many of you have created, there’s just not. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade but I’m just being observant of all the craziness surrounding this game.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong. I hope this game has something going for it other than pretty graphics. I’m hoping to see some great gameplay and even better, a tight storyline. But from what I’ve seen, I’m just not as blown away as most of you have already made yourselves become, long before anything really substantial was shown on this title.
I’m sure this falls on deaf ears but seriously folks, think rationally about this.”
Quoted for truth.
on January 15, 2009 11:07 pm
I don’t care about this article I actually agree with it. The thing is, when I see a JOURNALIST dropping F bomb’s and cussing out other people, that’s wrong. Is this a common thing on this site? I thought being a journalist meant taking in all the hate, god forbid someone say’s something dumb and doesn’t like your article. What are you doing in the comment section anyway? You ever see major movie critics, or other people comment hate to THEIR people. Go to YAHOO!’s website, click on the sports section and look for MIKE SILVER, he knows how to respond to people with comments, take some lessons. Your pathetic.
on January 15, 2009 11:24 pm
Talking about overhyping.
Here’s a portion of a review of Killzone 1…
“–95 PSM Magazine
Killzone was worth the wait, and matches the hype. It hits the mark in so many ways, it’s baffling; they promised us we’d experience future war, and we have…and come away shaking.” [Holiday 2004, p.70]
Now as you know, while NOT all that bad, KZ did NOT receive a 95 across the board. Let’s hope that KZ2 actually does live up to the hype and deserves an average score over 90.
on January 15, 2009 11:50 pm
You shouldn’t defend your points so much Dan, you end up sucking up to these fanboys. Stick to your story/blog, and run with it don’t ever back off. I could agree with you but I personally think a PS3 game needs overhyping especially KZ2 right now so they could finally see what’s it like to get overhyped and having to live up to it. Halo 3, Gears of War 2, have been through it and fans have bought the hype, played the game and loved them or hated them. It’s a double-edged sword when it comes to believing the hype. Those are my thoughts. Loved the article and for telling it like it is.
on January 16, 2009 12:19 am
We comment because we aren’t pretentious assholes that think we are above the “common folk”. Our opinions are no better than anyone else’s, we just have an outlet to express them.
And I swear because I’m immature and unintelligent.
on January 16, 2009 12:34 am
And hey, swearing is fun!
on January 16, 2009 12:55 am
You know what ‘the world’ would be like without ’swear words’? It would be ‘th l’ and that’s it. What sense would that make?
on January 16, 2009 3:39 am
You’re all cunts.
on January 16, 2009 11:53 am
dan take your pic down.. you are one ugly looking guy.. Im a decent looking girl, im not a super model or anything but you are super ugly.. you must be gay.. also whats on your chin?? is that a birth mark or hair??
ONE WORD: UGLY..
on January 16, 2009 11:56 am
Your pic is super creepy. please take it down. You look like a child molestor.. hee hee.. me and my friends are laughing at how weird you look.. let us know whats on your chin too.. we are dying to know..
on January 16, 2009 12:14 pm
I never knew being ugly and being gay were the same. In fact, I thought girls generally liked the way gay dudes looked. Nice logic.
And what’s on my chin? It’s a tattoo of a PS3.
on January 16, 2009 12:55 pm
That’s the best response yet, Dan.
on January 16, 2009 1:02 pm
Thanks, Sam.
on January 16, 2009 1:06 pm
And you thought LC was bad…..:P
on January 16, 2009 2:11 pm
hey Dan,
how’s that free laptop from Microsoft working for ya?
on January 16, 2009 2:18 pm
cadillac get dans twat out of your mouth,kz2 looks o.k. to you??please tell me what game really impressed you,you damn retard!
on January 16, 2009 2:25 pm
if i ever go to new jersey i will look you up dan so i can beat you down then take my schlong out and piss on you.chad must be gay for hiring you,did he perform a strip search on you?i bet you have a poster of gaylo 3 somewhere in your house.
on January 16, 2009 2:57 pm
Yes, you would love to get your shlort out in front of me since you think I’m gay, so what does that say about you?
As for posters, I don’t have posters of anything on my wall because I’m an adult.
on January 16, 2009 4:47 pm
you look like a gay 15 year old with down syndrome and it’s spelled schlong not shlort,if you wanna read a real article by a “game journalist” about hype go to gamezine.even there they quote your little gay ass as a xtwat.get that crapbox out your vagina!
on January 16, 2009 5:41 pm
I called it a shlort on purpose. If you were older than 14 you would understand why.
And I’m well aware of Gamezine. That’s where Patrick spends all of his time when he’s not slumming for Ripten. He actually told me ahead of time that he was writing that article, and he never calls me an Xtwat in the slightest. In fact, if you had any reading comprehension skills whatsoever, you would understand that he’s agreeing with me.
on January 16, 2009 7:17 pm
Are you guys the biggest bunch of whiners in the history of gaming communities or what? Holy cow people, just leave if you don’t like this website so much. I’m really glad I don’t play with people from the PSN right now.
on January 16, 2009 8:17 pm
I’m thinking Ripten should invoke forum ban hammer rules, It’s always a good thing to swing the ban hammer once in a while, and keep people honest. Works well for many sites. :)
Secondly, It would be great if Killzone 2 did really well for Sony’s sake. They need a big win.
Hey Dan, never give trolls more than one comment.
They don’t deserve it. Let the ban hammer swing!
Peace.
on January 17, 2009 7:12 am
I want to be a troll also.
PS3 is gAy! People who play a PS3 are l00zewrz!! LOLZ! ROFLOLCPTRHAHAHA!!
Seriously though, I find it amazing the amount of stupidity that comes from the Sony community when someone says something only looks “OKAY” as apposed to the super fucking awesome that it’s supposed to be. You know what? I think Killzone 2 looks like FUCKING ASS!!!! There, I said it. It looks like another shitty first person shooter that will try and take the supposed crown from Halo but fail miserable, which just goes to show how much it will suck because Halo isn’t really that good of a game to start with. What’s sad is the tenacity that you people have to defend it.
There have been articles on this website about xbox games being over hyped or in some way flawed but there is never as many xbox gamers coming out of the woodwork to defend their system’s games as there are PS3 gamers. You know why I think that is? It’s because people playing the xbox actually have games to play instead of constantly looking for the great savior to be developed. Guess what? Killzone 2 could be the most bad ass super awesome killer app ever made but guess what… it’s not going to mean jack shit because no one is willing to go out and blow a thousand dollars on a fucking gaming system just to play one shitty game. Resistance 2 was supposed to be fucking awesome also, and I’m sorry, but in my personal opinion, it was not fun. The only fun I’ve had on the PS3 was Little Big Planet. THAT game was awesome, but most of the fun from that came from playing with friends. It was a cute little relaxing platformer and a nice change of pace from blowing shit up or ripping people’s heads off all the time.
I just don’t see how you can justify getting so bent out of shape about a fucking shooter. They’re a dime a dozen. To me all these comments trying to bust Dan’s balls simply show to me that PS3 fans are bored ass fourteen year olds who want to be gangstaz when they grow up, at least a majority of them. Most of the PS3 gamers I know personally are older family types that got the system for one of two reasons, if not both: BlueRay and they already had a PS2 so they just wanted to upgrade.
By the way, METAL GEAR 4 SUCKS!!!
Yes, bring the flames on, mother fuckers…
on January 17, 2009 2:24 pm
This comment has been moderated.
john landis u look like some [guy] who jams a [piece of bread] up your [toaster],then [spreads jelly] all over his [toast] then [eats it].nothing on that [non-PS3 system] looks as good as killzone 2 does,the fact that your trolling about it means your [a genius] you [friendly attractive person]!!i hope your [non-PS3] [lives forever] on the same week killzone 2 comes so you can [have fun with it] while i [drool] all over your moms [apple pie] when im [starving for attention]!!!!!!!!!
on January 17, 2009 4:57 pm
LOL! John, you sir are a hero. That was both hilarious and true.
on January 17, 2009 5:59 pm
@CRAZY**CKER; Obviously,you’ve learned a most valuable lesson.Now you see how ugly a burned comments board looks.
If you are not able to read an article like this without all that fanboyism,you probably were jacking off at a Vekta flag all the way from 2005-2008 instead of doing proper research;there have been
1-The 2005 Teaser
2-Pre alpha/alpha
3-Pre beta/Multiplayer Beta 1/Beta2/Final Beta
4-Preview Build/Review Build
And an extensive coverage and comparison between development stages,PDF’S flooding the net about deferred rendering,Delays,Teasers,Trailers,more Teasers,Ballet Dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5f364-qdT8 Fuck,give me a break,I just feel like I’ve already played the game a thousand times,it won’t be so surprising when we finally play it.
Halo 3 was overhyped too,but then again,read the article with some objectivity, do it for the love of Philip K. Dick.And then go throw yourself off a cliff for the sake of all of us.
@Oh,[DavidGX] I hope you don’t meant “True” in the most formal acception of the term,or I might consider getting myself out of the closet like CrazyB**ch the ps3 spartan big boy.
You sure don’t want two ps3 goons on the loose here,hmm?
on January 18, 2009 6:18 am
CRAZYSPYDER: Please don’t start name calling. I’m supportive of Dan’s opinion in my Gamezine article. I was simply clarifying the point in my own writing style.
on January 18, 2009 6:24 am
John: As I’ve been on this website for a long time, Xbox fanboys are just as ferocious with their exclusives. Fanboys are fanboys.
on January 18, 2009 6:51 am
hi,
I would like to join the Dan bashing fiesta.
Dan, you should really consider a different job, cos your journalistic skills suck ass. Ripten should give you the sack asap
on January 18, 2009 7:02 am
Patrick, I know this, but the entire point of my comment was to troll for trolling’s sake. I frankly don’t care about any of this either way since I no longer play video games but… my dear lord!
OH OH! Just to keep the flaming going, I read the Official Playstation Official Magazine article on the game and while they had nothing but good things to say about the graphics, they did mention that the voice acting was substandard at best. Here, let me throw a quote out there to all you ravenous Killzone 2 fans…
“The voice acting is very mediocre, occasionally bordering on placeholder performances masquerading as final cut, a situation highlighted by the M-rated F-bomb-laden language splattered somewhat awkwardly throughout.”
“Fuck you”, you say, “the multiplayer is where it’s at.” Well, fuck you right back because there is no co-op and that’s the only multiplayer I really would get into. Besides that, I’m more of a realist kind of guy (or was back when I played video games) so I prefer games like Gears and certain CoD modes where you only have one life and it’s like four on four. Small, tactical battles. I’m sure you guys think that shit is boring, but to me that is the best. Nothing is better to me than trying to outwit your opposition with superior squad tactics and discipline. Shoot, kill, die, respawn, repeat is boring as fuck and I don’t see how that holds people’s interest, but then I’m an old fuck that still has at least a bit of an attention span left.
So, yeah, Killzone 2’s multiplayer may be the fucking bee’s knees to you, but it sounds lame as shit to me. As far as I can tell, the only thing going for it is the graphics and if all that matters is looking pretty, I could spend that same amount that getting a PS3 would cost and get myself a high end prostitute. At least after fucking a whore I wouldn’t feel as dirty inside as if I’d have spent the money supporting Sony. I mean, at least if the whore lies to me it’s going to make me feel better and when she fucks me it’s the good kind of fucking, not the kind of fucking that takes away backwards compatibility or rumble in my controller or like buying a brand new trinitron and having it fuck up in two weeks, or buying a camcorder and having it fuck up in two months. At least a prostitute would suck in a good way, unlike MGS4, and she’d at least get right to the sucking, not dick around for forty five god damned minutes before you could even start to play.
Oh yeah, and while I’m trolling, I just gotta know, what the fuck does anyone’s gaming preferences have to do with their sexual orientation? Most of the homosexuals that I know don’t even play games. Hell, the one guy dude I know that even plays games has a fucking PS3. I guess it’s just a sign that you kids are growing up and are unsure of your own sexuality that you have to start calling people “fags” or “queers” or something. Stop being a bitch and argue like a mature human being, you buncha fags.
Oh oh, one MORE thing! Who the fuck wants to get in an actual fight over some stupid video game? Is that how you act in school? Are you angry because you’re in the “special” classes? You get this pissed off when people say Mountain Dew Code Red tastes like ass, because I can just tell that you’re the type that adores that shit. Maybe you should fucking relax, man. Mountain Dew Code Red DOES taste like ass, it’s fucking ASS FLAVORED. It says it on the ingredients, Yellow No. 13, Water, and artificial ASS FLAVOR. Take off your helmet and try and join the real world.
Sorry Patrick, I just can’t help myself. It’s fun to harass the fanboiz.
on January 18, 2009 7:06 am
that includes your brother, who seems to be even more of a retard than yourself. Life sucks if you’re a Landis apparently
on January 18, 2009 7:18 am
Dear Ripten : your staff act like children
on January 18, 2009 7:21 am
HAHA, looks like the xbots are crying because even Killzone 32 multiplayer craps on EVERY 360 game out or even teased:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyIp_kF4r0g
^Halo odst goes in corner to cry.
on January 18, 2009 7:35 am
Just another stupid attention seeking article
It isnt ur job to tell ppl not to hype, game journalist shouldnt be a synonym for dedicated fanboy
U are the Reviews Editor, so noone cares if claim or dnt claim to be a professional
bcos u are posing like one
If ppl feel hyped about a game let them feel hyped
U can comment on it but dnt tell ppl what to do, thats not ur job
on January 18, 2009 7:44 am
Blaccat’s occupation:
Telling Dan Landis what to do.
on January 18, 2009 7:47 am
What a poor article, If I was to take decisions based on the quality of written articles on this site, I would immediately get rid of this Dan Landis, the article which was supposed to be neutral and informative, turned into a ‘fanboy’ article so quickly I can’t believe it, you played the game for a few minutes and now you have a worthy opinion for the internet? you sir are a FOOL!
a few minutes of gameplay, “it won’t move consoles” and “it’s not a killer app” what, it’s not a killer app because you don’t really like it?
you fail at journalism, “I wouldn’t buy a PS3 for Killzone 2″
and? there are thousands of people who will, you are so stupid that you state your lousy opinion as FACT. I hate journo’s like you, idiotic fanboys disguised as objective people…
on January 18, 2009 7:48 am
calling your readers idiots and retards should make you lose your job
on January 18, 2009 7:54 am
John Landis, you sir are sad…
If I owned Ripten, a site which mind you, I will regard as highly as dead cows along the countryside from now on…
I would fire you immediately, if that is how you treat your readers then this site has no reason to exist, you have let your fanboism emotions get the best of you.
FUCK YOU!!
FUCK RIPTEN!!
on January 18, 2009 7:54 am
John Landis you are a joke and must live a really sad life.
if I owned ripten, I would fire you immediately.
IDIOT!
on January 18, 2009 7:59 am
“calling your readers idiots and retards should make you lose your job”
Say, for example, you work in a food shop. One day, hundreds of vegetarians storm in and start shouting at you that you should be fired for selling meat, despite the fact that there’s no indication that you’re a meat-only shop, and you promote vegetables just as much.
You wouldn’t want those customers to come back, would you? No. They don’t even buy anything, they just rant at you.
If you act like a retard, don’t expect any respect. We don’t want you here. Grow up or go away.
on January 18, 2009 8:05 am
@ Sam Naylor
Moron, it is my duty as a veiwer of the site
and i didnt tell what to do genius, sad lil site soldier (WTF is a contributor? lol)
U guys are just attention seeking whores
look at how u speaking to veiwer of ur site
clearly showing that u guys are just tryin to get some attention
And this just adds to the hype of killzone 2
so keep writing about it
All publicity is good publicity
Now more ppl will join the bandwagon
WELCOME TO HELGHAN!!!!!
on January 18, 2009 8:11 am
Keep it up, Ripten! You tell those PS3 tards what’s what! Having no games to play must be causing them all to go mental. Me, I’m just an objective, true hardcore gamer like you all Ripten. I love all the consoles because I can actually… zomg AFFORD them all! So I’m not biased in any way. So when I say that the PS3 has absolutely NO games aside from a few good multiplats that I can get a better experience out of with the 360 version anyway, you know I’m telling it like it is and that if any PS3 fanboys are reading this they need to STFU about Killzone and just admit that it’s nothing but a shiny turd with motion blur and stupid lens glare.
on January 18, 2009 8:13 am
Your analogy doesn’t make sense. Name calling is unprofessional and sack-worthy. There are better ways to handle the type of “customers” you’re referring to.
on January 18, 2009 8:13 am
@ the lil site soldier Sam Naylor again
If the shop keeper had previously put up a sign in front of his store saying
“PEOPLE OF THE UK, STOP BEING VEGETERIANS EAT MEAT!!!!”
imagine mcdonalds or KFC doing that
They would deserve whatever response they get
on January 18, 2009 8:24 am
Look. My point was that we don’t want a rabble of semi-literate people here if all they are going to do is complain.
If you don’t like it, go somewhere else.
on January 18, 2009 8:37 am
lol @ Dan Landis
What the freaking F + C K is wrong with you? What came into your mind…. to create such an article?
Every reviewer who played the review-code agrees with me: KILLZONE 2 is the best shooter in this generation of consoles!
Just a stupid Xbot won’t accept this!
But hey, just because YOU are now saying “Hey, I think Gears and Halo didn’t deserve a 10″ means now “So, I will start to by more meaner. KILLZONE 2 will get an 8″ ???
What the hell is wrong with you?
I have a suprise for you. Just visit me here in germany. You can play the review-code for free and we will show you how the write a good article, about a fantastic game for a fantastic gaming-magazin. You can even sleep here for a few days.
What do you say?
Maybe you will learn a little bit about “being honest” and “losing your Xbox-fanboy agenda”.
Just an idea, dude
on January 18, 2009 8:42 am
@James
You wrote:
~~~~Keep it up, Ripten! You tell those PS3 tards what’s what! Having no games to play must be causing them all to go mental. Me, I’m just an objective, true hardcore gamer like you all Ripten. I love all the consoles because I can actually… zomg AFFORD them all! So I’m not biased in any way. So when I say that the PS3 has absolutely NO games aside from a few good multiplats that I can get a better experience out of with the 360 version anyway, you know I’m telling it like it is and that if any PS3 fanboys are reading this they need to STFU about Killzone and just admit that it’s nothing but a shiny turd with motion blur and stupid lens glare~~~~
WTF? You tried to lie on and by tellin us “I am a hardcore gamer. I have all consoles” and then you talk shit like that?
PS3 has no games, PS3 blablabala
SONY alone has more and better exclusive than the whole Xbox360 libary, to be honest IMO
The Xbox360 is the worst designed-system ever!
But surely, a few exclusives are good. No doubt!
But what the hell are you talking about? You shithead never played KILLZONE 2, so WTF are you talking? Just because its better than Gears 1+2 and HALO??
Does it hurt so much?
And your “yeah Dan, good article” Awesome job! You are a hardcore gamer like me” is just
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Go and play Viva Pinata, you litte kid.
Grow up and talk about in a few years
on January 18, 2009 8:43 am
LOL thats the attitude
We would see how long this fanboyism last
Anyhoo, have a good day
I have some more drooling to do over killzone 2
SEND THEM RUNING!!!!
on January 18, 2009 8:52 am
@Blaccat
More drooling to do over KZ2?
Yeah, you have to. KZ2 is SO GOOD, so it’s “Teh dangerous for my Xbox360 and Microsoft” you have to “work” just do defend you shitty Microsoftagenda, huh?
Poor poo boy. Get a girlfriend and a life.
Maybe this will help
rofl, poor boy
on January 18, 2009 9:19 am
@ John Landis:
Simple response for you, sir: Your comment contains false information (1000 dollars for a PS3?) and it seems to me that you’re judging games based on every factor OTHER THAN the quality of the game itself. Fanboyism and hype are the ultimate deciding factors for you, it would seem, so I’ll just ignore anything you’ve got to say in the future.
“Killzone 2 could be the most bad ass super awesome killer app ever made but guess what… it’s not going to mean jack shit because no one is willing to go out and blow a thousand dollars on a fucking gaming system just to play one shitty game.”
How can a game that is “the most bad ass super awesome killer app ever made” also be “one shitty game?”
Take care.
on January 18, 2009 9:47 am
Dan Landis, I agree with you that fanboys are overhyping a really good game and it needs to stop. The expectations are being set too high. HOWEVER, I guess that since you say Killzone 2 is just another shooter, then there isn’t much you expect from the FPS genre.
Hopefully, Ripten’s review of Killzone 2 will be fair, and by that I mean not giving it more priase then it deserves AND not bringing the game down based on high expectations.
on January 18, 2009 9:49 am
Dan you fucking xbot. How much did MS pay you to be a fucking idiot.
on January 18, 2009 9:52 am
After reading through the comments i can’t believe the unprofessionalism from some of these so called ‘Paid Journalists’. Now the website i run is something i do for nothing because i enjoy it. However i would never make any of the following comments about any website user:
“PS3 fans are bored ass fourteen year olds who want to be gangstaz when they grow up”
theres just no need for it and all you are doing is harming the reputation of this website.
You then make a comment such as
“I think Killzone 2 looks like FUCKING ASS!!!! There, I said it. It looks like another shitty first person shooter that will try and take the supposed crown from Halo but fail miserable”
Now one the language is just unacceptable and second of all from the impression i have got is that you have only played the game for a few minutes, so why if you are a gamer make a comment like that.
Still you then finish by saying:
“By the way, METAL GEAR 4 SUCKS!!!
Yes, bring the flames on, mother fuckers”
Again theres no need for the swearing (unless it makes you feel like a big man), and you then make a statement about a game which many regard as one of the best of 08, in what is surely just more of a attempt just to cause more outrage.
Now i have visited this website before and have enjoyed the articles, however this display just leaves me with no choice but to never come back here if i want to find a honest opinion on a game and im sure that there are more people with the same impression and what is worse is that i haven’t even got to my opinions on the article yet.
on January 18, 2009 9:56 am
Oh My God
Dan Landis i hope youll lose youre job….
and i hope ripten will lose its visiters this site is SH!T
i mean wtf?!
on January 18, 2009 10:04 am
To fanboys- For the love of god,please get a life,KZ2 looks good but you havent even played the SINGLE PLAYER,so get over yourself and wait for the reviews and play it,then judge the game,its soo vain and shallow to judge a game on graphics alone.
to Dan Landis- how can you even call yourself a professional journo arguing with fanboys on the net,i know this is a blog and the standards arent high but never have i seen a ‘professional’ argue with fanboys sooo virulently………….you dear sir need to get to work on something else besides fighting with fanboys online
on January 18, 2009 10:06 am
Interesting article! I have to say that although I hope Killzone 2 is successful (for personal reasons) the amount of fanboy comments from both PS3 and Xbox fans on every article is just shocking. I actually believe Dan makes a good point about crazed fans although the comment about it not moving systems seems strange. What information is that based on? Since it’s been a long established fact that having games on a system that people want to play helps increase the sales of that system!
Anyway I couldn’t help noticing the appearance of ‘Wasim’ on this forum. He’s a prime example of the worst kind of fanboy and posts elsewhere as ‘RajakarNizamiSyedi’ and ‘Washimul’, constantly typing exactly the kind of baseless bullshit and anti X-box rants that the article mentions. So i’d just like to respond to his post from earlier.
“I am a BETA tester of KZ2 . my psn is wasim007 ”
No. You weren’t. But you took some kind of weird satisfaction from posting other people’s videos on Youtube and pretending they were yours.
“You have to be a rabid JAPAN HATER to give KZ2 something less than 10.
well most british are racists so yea i can see Killzone 2 getting less than 10 from those BRITS.”
Ok is that irony or hipocrisy if you make a sweeping statement that a whole country are racists? I’m not sure. Either way I don’t know ANY Brit who ever had a problem with the Japanese! Yeah, maybe some of those guys who were WW2 POWs but I don’t think they work for gaming review mags these days! Of course Wasim is the guy who once claimed that “Jumping in Killzone makes you xenophobic”! Also worth noting that Killzone 2 is a Dutch game with a dev team made up of people from all over the world.
So Wasim, if you have a problem just stop posting and then maybe all the other little troll fanboys losers will crawl back into the woodwork too and the rest of us can go back to enjoying games?
on January 18, 2009 10:08 am
I would personally like to congratulate the Playstation 3 community on successfully making an ass of themselves.
Killzone 2 is nothing more than a game, so why are you being so anal about it? Quite frankly I think some people need to re-evaluate their life with the crap they are posting here.
Killzone 2 may be a good game, but having played it briefly myself I can safely say I much prefer the PC as an FPS platform. So suck on that.
The Playstation 3 is an overpriced George Foreman endorsed paper-weight that has lost against the mighty Xbox 360 and the not so might Nintentdo Wii.
I guess what I’m trying to say is fuck you and fuck your Playstation 3.
on January 18, 2009 10:08 am
Halo 3, hype, Gears2, every Xbox exclusive is hyped to fuck. Oh no but as soon as PS3 users get hyped about a game that cleary is fucking kick ass, all you xbot’s start fucking crying.
Dan grow up, stop crying you frickin idiot.
1 rule for MS and another everybody else, you people make me sick
on January 18, 2009 10:10 am
It’s Official
I finally found the most unprofessional, pathetic gaming journalist on the net.
Here is someone looking for attention. All I see is an ass!
Did Microsoft pay you to write this? I wonder why game journalism is taking so much heat latley. It’s because of douche bags like this.
If you don’t like the game, than fine. You don’t write an article like this to say so. Maybe I should take his job.
on January 18, 2009 10:13 am
RIP RIPTEN
poor xbot idiots
on January 18, 2009 10:14 am
Um……………..well that last comment……………Ever once in life wish you could undo something?………..yeah…..Anyways, I actually think you where doing Killzone a favour with your article by taking some of the hype off the game. I don’t know why it’s so hard for some to see that, but that last comment…..yikes! I understand most of it was probably out of spite,but damn!
Oh! BTW, that comment about Metal Gear…….bad form dude…. Bad form
on January 18, 2009 10:17 am
Dan Landis.
You think your well educated? Doesnt really show it on this page. Your a disgrace as a journalist IMO. Why? Journalists dont pay attention to all the negative comments people make at their articles or reviews.
You = Fail.
Oh and by the way, Gears 2 sucked compared to the first Gears, and is no where near equal to Killzone 2.
on January 18, 2009 10:18 am
This is sad, practically all the people commenting are idiots and clearly didn’t read the article. He’s trying to make a point to stop overhyping the game because it is nearing the ‘immaculate’ area on the hype scale and will not live up to the hype, causing people to then flip out about the game not being the second coming of Christ. I read the hype articles, but rely on my own opinions of games, but sadly a lot of people only like games based on what others think.
Dan did a good job responding from what I saw, responding to the idiots with facts. I give him alot of credit for being classy enough to not flip out. John Landis however, just went over the top with that response. You are a journalist dude, grow the fuck up! Aren’t you above these people? I guess not, because you just lowered yourself to being another jackass. Totally unprofessional.
Dan hit the spot with this article, sadly Sony won’t advertise this game enough to be a killer app. Throw out some commercials at the Superbowl and such and it could be a killer app, selling more PS3’s than MGS4. If they don’t do something around that, then it will more than likely just be a little bump of a sales boost, with a good amount of copies sold to people who already own a PS3.
on January 18, 2009 10:18 am
I expect you to shove your foot in your mouth when Killzone 2 releases.
Seriously, I was in the beta, could you point me in the directions of a shooter better than Killzone 2?
There isn’t one. Go over the properties of a “Great Shooter” in your mind.
Graphics
Story
Gameplay
Multiplayer
Single Player
Extra Features
Killzone 2 wins by a mile in all of these categories, it even wrecks Call of Duty 4, and how many MILLIONS and MILLIONS of copies did that sell?
on January 18, 2009 10:19 am
I’ve always known, from the very beginning of this console generation, that the PS3 would end up being the superior system with the best games lineup, after all is said and done. Killzone 2 is the beginning of the realization of this fact.
Give it up, 360 fanboys (i.e., Ripten editors); your little overheating doorstop is fast becoming obsolete in essentially every way.
on January 18, 2009 10:22 am
And come on, how the hell can you say a good multiplayer doesn’t enhance the overall package. That’s the most retarded thing I’ve ever heard.
Multiplayer is 75% of a game. Some people don’t even touch single player, they just go straight to multiplayer.
Why? Because it lasts 50x longer than single player. I’ve got 19 days of playtime on CoD4, and about 5 hours on single player?
I can say that Killzone 2 has better multiplayer than CoD4, just from the beta, and I’m 10th Prestige in CoD4.
on January 18, 2009 10:23 am
Jesus, the immaturity of the article and some of the responses is breathtaking. No console has a monopoly on good titles. As it happens KZ2 shows all indication of being something very special. If that bothers other console owners, take comfort from the excellent exclusive games on your own platform of choice. Every console has them. In other words, grow the hell up babies.
on January 18, 2009 10:29 am
Dan stop bashing one out over your 360. Does the halo intro get you hard or something?
I have been coming to ripten regulary and over the past year it has degenerated into a slag sony site. Granted Sony deserve it some times. But to be honest your not helping yourself at all. I know riptens hits are down but if you really must resort to these sort of comments just to get the site hits then I think you just need to close the site for good. Do you not remember when we all had a laugh on this site ? Some genuinely funny articles. Now its all bitchy.
Killzone 2 is awesome, and I know it hurts, but you obviously got a PS3 any ways so why bitch about something your going to be playing anyways ?
Dan m8, I am very disapointed
on January 18, 2009 10:35 am
The media indeed bashes the PS3 all the time, it isn’t weird… They love to have microsoft’s cock in their asses all the time.
Now we know ripten will give killzone 2 a 6-7/10 cause this gaylord site is ran by fanboys/retards.
Thanks for proving it ripten ^^
on January 18, 2009 10:37 am
I think you forgot to take your pill-
http://i40.tinypic.com/2zq65ox.jpg
on January 18, 2009 10:41 am
Wow.. RIPTEN is teh FAIL.
No more respect, no more reading and webhits.
What a clown and I hope you get sacked in a recession.
on January 18, 2009 10:42 am
ROFL look at all the Sony children flipping out.
on January 18, 2009 10:43 am
Great article as always, Dan. I’ve been personally peeved with these goddamned fanboys since previewing the game in December. It’s really amazing how these fanboy twerps operate. First, they say Killzone 2’s single-player is the second coming of Christ. I played it for six hours straight, with a cold and head-ache, because I wanted to feel the same. But no spin could wipe the fact that KZ2 was an excellent title but far from the genius that true action masterpieces, like Half-Life 2 and Resident Evil 4, contain. It’s a great game but it won’t sell PS3s on the scale of, say, Super Mario Bros. for the NES. And I seriously pity any fan-boys who think it will.
Then they say, “Well, okay, the graphics are f**king congress, ass-hooker!” I compared KZ2 to Crysis, THE best looking game to date. I simply stated that while the former hasn’t surpassed the latter (reaffirmed by another site’s comparison), it comes very close. And since KZ2 doesn’t take full advantage of the PS3 hardware, we could definitely see GG come up with a visual looker in another few years (maybe that’ll be the so-called “killer app”). I won’t even mention the number of fanboys who called me blind, stoned, crazy and “hiding behind my mother’s ass” when I couldn’t access our site to reply to them.
No matter what we write, these fanboys will still bitch and whine for their game. And two years from now, they’ll do the same for another title that doesn’t interest us much. The only thing we can do is write how we feel and make the gamers – the people who REALLY support these systems, companies and franchises – aware of what’s happening. And if the trolls want to come out and play, keep smiting them with the one thing they’ll never have: Logic.
Keep rocking, Dan. :)
(P.S. The Top 10 Greatest Asses in Videogames Countdown? Best. Feature. Ever.)
on January 18, 2009 10:48 am
I left playstation for PC and left the PC for Xbox. Being a very happy long-term X360 owner I have just recently returned to the Playstation fold by buying a PS3. Don’t get me wrong, in many ways it is a lovely piece of kit, but I am very dissapointed by many of the games that lured me into the purchase. I have to agree that MGS 4 was a poor game. I could not help but find the epic and over-indulgent narrative trite and I felt the overall gameplay lacked any sign of innovation,something that Kojima has hitherto been known for. Perhaps that is too harsh, there were many little touchs here and there that you would seldom find elsewhere, but it really didn’t feel like a game for me at all and that is dissapointing. Of course GOW and Halo a like carry little more in terms of narrative, but at least they don’t aspire to be a pseudo-game-movie. They have they faults and I agree that they are far far from perfect, but they are incredible games there is something about them, their addictivness, their world, their atmosphere and their overall ambienc. They–for me at least–provide a gaming experience I am yet to encounter with any PS3 exclusive title. But believe me I really do hope that will change.
on January 18, 2009 10:49 am
Sites that build themselves up on controversy always go down in flames.
The word “journalist” is really taking a hit, here. You should have the pride, dignity and respect in your words to let them stand without having to resort to the same kind of name-calling and tit-for-tat as some of the morons attacking you.
Shame on you, Ripten.
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on January 18, 2009 10:51 am
I could understand not wanting to buy into the hype, but forming such a strong opinion on a game that you’ve had “a few minutes” with is not a very intelligent thing to do. I’ve played the beta, and I think this game does live up to all of the hype. It’s far and away the most fantastic looking console game ever made, and it happens to also be a great game (killer app, even) underneath the amazing visuals. My opinion comes from playing an unfinished version of the game. I can only assume, from what I’ve seen of the final build, that what people will be buying at retail will make this article a fun thing to look back on and laugh at.
Dear Internet: Quit Downplaying Killzone 2
on January 18, 2009 10:53 am
I love how there is an article about this article
http://www.gamebrood.com/2009/01/18/game-journalist-throws-a-fit-at-killzone-2-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-299
on January 18, 2009 11:00 am
you know what
you just hyped killzone a little more keep on going
sure you need some traffic to your crappy site too..
in the end you help killzone and killzone helps your site.
internet is serious busineeeezzz
on January 18, 2009 11:00 am
Heyy……..here’s an idea dumbass! try being a real game journalist and not writing what sounds like fanboy blog posts and actually start doing a job! You are the type of useless shit that is bringing the industry of gaming down, shame on you sir
on January 18, 2009 11:02 am
haha I’m pretty sure that there isn’t one shred of fact in the entire article, it’s all just your opinions man, I pity you deeply
on January 18, 2009 11:04 am
Hype only seems to hurt games, not help them.
As a launch PS3 owner, purchasing this system has been the biggest gaming mistake (and regret) of my life.
It frustrates me that I was taken in by Sony and all their hype for a machine that was claimed to do so much, yet they still can’t even unify their own services 2 years after launch.
Fragmented Trophy library, Custom Soundtracks per developers discretion, voice chats that don’t carry over into the game, inability to join friends directly from the XMB, HOME lacking some of the basic features we were hyped on… you can’t even do a custom soundtrack in Home… LOCALLY!!!!… the list goes on and on of failed promises undelivered expectations, and all at an extremely high price point. I think we’re all very hurt by Sony and the community is lashing out.
Like you said… it’s not like we have any games to play. :/
on January 18, 2009 11:05 am
I have to say as a journalists myself, we are supposed to be unbiased and not opinionated by a certain product. If it is generating hype, we should be able to accept it by the general public no matter how much you dislike it because this has nothing to do with personal bias and feelings.
Your article suggests just that, you have a curve towards the Xbox and have put your journalist integrity on the line. I am not sure who hired you, but if you were on my team, you would have been fired by me on the spot. This is not World War 3. However, I also see this is your blog, so your opinion to you is fact.
Have a good day.
on January 18, 2009 11:05 am
Hype – more money (charity ftw :P)
Over hype – even more money (frustration rising)
Triple double mega over hype (Killzone 2 alike) – toxic waste that makes you wanna puke internet bull crap… Like seriously. If a game is great, let players play it first and then hype the shit out of it. It ain’t a big problem for Sony to pay 1000 sites to say their “new game” will kick butt. It really ain’t that hard. You think Microsoft didn’t do it? Nintendo didn’t do it? It’s freaking disguised propaganda, I tell ya! But still, stop flaming and puking on each other, and play the game for yourself first. The net (hell we all) will appreciate it.
on January 18, 2009 11:09 am
i suggest you buy a dictionary and look up the words journalism and journalist. after doing that, go back to school. and i am not talking about your community college either. but a real school where you might actually learn some shit. finally you called me a motherfucker…. this ain’t just internet talk what i’m about to say. if i ever… ever… EVER… see you outside of your fuckin’ cave… i am going to break your motherufucking jaw, and both your goddamn hands.
on January 18, 2009 11:15 am
I find so amuzing people who are suppose to be professional game journalist need to defend there article or even call there readers names, and say games sucks. How are we suppose to really take you guys serious?
Its only a matter of time that Sony, other PS3 game develophers stop shipping you those copies to preview and review because of your bias and you be in the same place as those guys over 1up Broke Unemployed game journalist selling off your games to pay rent.
on January 18, 2009 11:28 am
All of this butthurt because of an opinion over a game.
Re-read all this shit and be ashamed that you blasted off paragraphs of name calling and stupidity over a video game.
It’s a game, you’ll play it, or you wont. You might enjoy it, you might not. In the end we all continue with our lives.
on January 18, 2009 11:29 am
that’s all i have to say
http://majicmarc.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/yhst-34640480252896_1981_141427.gif
on January 18, 2009 11:32 am
basicaqlly ps3 is better than xbot. ps3 fanboys r more better than xbot. kz2 will be best fps of all time. i played the beta so i would know. and the only compaint i have about the beta is that it will be very noobish, with roket launchers and shotguns. and there is a death animation lag.e
on January 18, 2009 11:40 am
I don’t get what the big deal is. You don’t like the article, put adblock on for ripten and send a message, Fuck these high school drop game “journalists”. I don’t think these idiots have ever done an honest day’s work in their life. They just piss on other people’s hard work.
Guerilla games has exceeded all expectations after being lambasted by these “journalists” for the 2005 video. At the very least, these assholes owe Guerilla an apology.
Oh, well, just adblocked ripten.
on January 18, 2009 11:41 am
Oh wait! I just realized that it was John that made the comment and not Dan. Ooops. My bad? My appologies. You guys have the same last name. You should clear this up.
on January 18, 2009 11:42 am
and also dan ure a fuking xbot deuche. if we met i would kik ure ass u stupid cock. this is what he really wrote but edited it.
http://www.gamebrood.com/2009/01/18/game-journalist-throws-a-fit-at-killzone-2-fans/
in red
on January 18, 2009 11:43 am
Gotta love gaming journalism. Just goes to show forum trolls can work their way up to the big leagues and get their site hits by posting outrageous articles.
on January 18, 2009 11:44 am
This site has probably just lost all of its credibility. You people at Ripten have dug yourself a really big hole, and Im not sure how you gonna recover that. People will now most likely take your reviews and game impressions with a grain of salt. You have caused quite a bit of controversy which no doubt will generate hits for your site (example I am here typing away this comment…)
I think you guys joined the list of being ‘Killzoned’ alongside with GamesRader.
Its looks like its true, Killzone 2 is bringing out the true colours of people.
The question is….whos next to be Killzoned?
on January 18, 2009 11:49 am
I LOVE how whenever someone with a brain (Dan Landis) decides to speak up and try to get all of the ridiculously immature idiotic fanboys to wake up, he just gets flamed. I guarantee you that 99% of the PS3 fanboys that responded to this article have never even played Killzone 2, and are making all their statements merely off of a trailer they watched or a wallpaper they downloaded for the PC/PS3. I’m absolutely sick of it. I’m glad that all of the PS3 fanboys are sitting on forums all waiting to start flaming people, telling everyone how great the PS3 is and how bad everything else is instead of actually playing the PS3. Also, I love how all the PS3 fanboys said at the beginning of 2008 that it would be “the year of the PS3! PS3 will surpass the Xbox 360.” And guess what happened? Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 2 to 1. How you like them apples?
on January 18, 2009 11:51 am
@ John Landis’ comments above
WOW! If this website ever had an ounce of credibility, it just lost it with your little obscene tirade! If I owned Ripten, you wouldn’t have a job. And if management has any brains, they will see that you are driving away readers. A true gaming website, or any website for that matter who relies on devoted readers would be ashamed to be associated with someone whose lacks journalistic integrity such as yourself. It’s very apparent that you have ulterior motives behind your fanboy drivel. Thanks for opening my and many other readers eyes.
on January 18, 2009 11:57 am
For the record, some of you commenters don’t seem to realize that John and I are two different people. You can’t quote us both as one unified voice, and I find it incredibly hilarious that so many people missed the point of John’s “rant”. I just wonder if you realize that the entirety of the Internet can see your ignorant misinterpretation of the words on this page and that intelligent people are sitting there laughing at you.
And that’s why we generally don’t swing the ban hammer. If people are going to make retarded statements, we want them to live with it. Maybe when they grow some brains they will realize just how stupid they made themselves sound.
on January 18, 2009 12:01 pm
I thought ripten was a professional gaming website,how wrong i was, you would expect the comments in this article from some shitty pre-puberty fan site.
But anyway just like to say that Gears of War2 was a system seller and that if you say that Killzone 2 is the same quality/rating as Gears of War 2 how can you not expect Killzone 2 not to be a system seller? You kind of contradict yourself Dan.
Also just a quick note but i don’t understand how you Dan can get yourself embroiled into such an article and more importantly get involved in using profanity in the comments section, which further establishes Ripten to be just another unprofessional gaming site.
I look forward to your reply (preferable with the decency of a polite response)
Regards
on January 18, 2009 12:03 pm
Mister Landis i feel bad for you. i mean if people these days could read correctly instead of just reading what they want this article wouldn’t have a zillion and one comments about how “U R GAY PS3 FOREVERZ” and so forth. i blame the school system. some times i wonder why as soon as you say you play video games people think your a nerd, and then i read the comments in this article and i see why. nerd rage is a very depressing thing that people need vent about the inadequacies in their own lives that they latch on to some thing and treat it like it’s the lord and savior come to earth and as long as they have it will make all the loneliness and depression go away. but i might be the only one who thinks that. nice article by the way
on January 18, 2009 12:05 pm
Guys. Dan and John are two different people. Who is this John anyways? Is he even a part of this site?
on January 18, 2009 12:06 pm
Very unprofessional.
on January 18, 2009 12:08 pm
I’m a knob i admit it
on January 18, 2009 12:09 pm
All your credibility just went flying out the window.
on January 18, 2009 12:10 pm
I was reading through almost all the comments that were made here that were first posted the article, and I realized that he was taking heat from everyone….now his brothers outburst isn’t exactly professional, but there were countless times where people said some pretty offensive stuff but Dan tried to remain professional (for the most part), the insults based around this article were the worst I’ve seen in years
Dan was expressing an opinion via publication… and he was defending his view from the forsaken trolls, though in an awkward demeanor. In all honesty, It was just amusing to see that so many fans of KZ2 seem desperate to flatten anyone who doesn’t OMG IT’S PWNSAUCE to the awesomeness that is KZ2. He tried to defend himself from the devout worshipers of the Helghast. Whether he succeeded or not is for each individual to decide…
It baffles me how some people can be so anti xbox or anti ps3. I’m sure if someone came to you and gave you one of em as a gift you would not think twice about getting your hands on it…So for you fanboys who will come and try to say “i would never touch a 360/ps3 if they were given to me as a gift cuz its sucks major dick”.
.go play PC and stop complaining you ignorant monkeys
Ripten can be biased sometimes, but then again I don’t think this was a biased article
he did not rate GeOw2 or Halo 3 so you cant accuse him of anything
on January 18, 2009 12:15 pm
@ Dan Landis
We know John and you are two different people. I think most people just assume he’s your retarded brother who just happened to write for the site as well. Is that not true? Does John landis not write for Ripten as well?
on January 18, 2009 12:18 pm
What a shit article, maybe Dan you should get a job as Bill Gates Bitch. With the credit crunch and all he prob paid you to write this article.
Mate get a life and quit your job if your going to post retarded articles like this. There was no point in writing this article unless you wanted the responses from the public and an argument. Well guess you succeded and prob had nothing to do this weekend.
Well mate your a fucking loser whos just damaged Ripten proffessionalism with this one post.
on January 18, 2009 12:19 pm
PS- and for the record, I don’t have a problem with you or what you wrote, Dan. You didn’t blast Killzone. You just asked that we all not hype a game that’s not even out yet, so much. That’s fine. I can understand that. But if John Landis writes for this site, he should be fired.
on January 18, 2009 12:20 pm
If I was to take a gander, I would assume that John must be related to Dan somehow. I’m also guessing John’s rant was to show some of you guys how stupid some of you sound. I do see the irony in it all :) I for one am a PS3 ONLY owner and I think that the article that Dan wrote is healthy for Killzone 2. What a stink this has created and all for nothing.
on January 18, 2009 12:20 pm
FUCK XBOX 360 BUY A PS3
on January 18, 2009 12:25 pm
I’ve never been to this site before, and I don’t intend to come back. Not because of any fanboyism or half-arsed (p)reviews, but because your staff can’t string a sentence together and have worse grammar than my baby daughter. Who is 17 days old.
How do these people get jobs in ‘journalism’? And using expletives in your retorts to user-comments is incredibly unprofessional. I suggest you restructure.
on January 18, 2009 12:36 pm
num num num, you are correct in so many ways.
And yes, John has written a few things for the site, one of which you all should read before judging him the way you are:
http://www.ripten.com/2008/11/17/local-retailers-biased-against-playstation/
Stings, doesn’t it?
on January 18, 2009 12:39 pm
If I’m not mistaking. You obviously don’t have games to play either if you had time to write this. Nice try, but I’m going back to playing my ps3. Hopefully, this was done in satire or you’re just making gamers as a whole look worse than we already do.
on January 18, 2009 12:41 pm
oops, wrong article, w/e.
I can’t stand hype either.
No game can ever live up to the hype.
on January 18, 2009 12:42 pm
Killzone 2….Killzone 2….Killzone 2…., you know what, I have to agree with how much media attention and overhyping that this title has been recieving as of late. Not to say it isn’t worth it considering how 2009 is shaping up for Sony and the PS3 console. I have seen all the screenshots, looked at all the gameplay clips, and even sampled a bit of the review build sent out to media outlets, and I have to say that the game does in fact seems on an even playing field with Gears of War 2.
They may not be the same exact games, but from what I have played of both games, nothing truly stands out between both versions of the game. Am I saying that I played through the whole game, no, but I have played enough just to get a solid understanding of the game. Will I still buy Killzone 2, most likely yes….do I own Gears of War 2, yes. Do I think Halo (actually Halo 3) was crap, hell yes. At the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference and preference.
These views that Dan Lanis express are merely his own and everyone should have the balls to respect that. He just wants to make sure everyone understands that too much hype can be bad for gamers and the game itself. Keep doing what you are doing man.
on January 18, 2009 12:58 pm
@ Dan Landis,
Dan, it seems to me that you are trying to justify what John Landis wrote by posting a link to one story that he published in Nov that was pro-PS3.
That is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter if John is a pS3 fanboy or an Xbox 360 fanboy. The problem that we have with him is that he totally destroyed any credibility this site had with his profanity laced tirade. it doesn’t matter if it was in Jest and to prove a point. The fact is, no real professional in the video game journalism field would have wrote that. The kind of judgment John displayed in posting his rant was uncalled for. How can the video game industry ever expect for mainstream media to stop stereotyping all video game players as immature, testosterone fueled idiots if the people that are supposed to be reporting on video game news are just as bad? We don’t have a lot of true professionals in this industry as it is, and John certainly didn’t help things. You would never see Jeff Keighley do such a thing. This site should be ashamed.
on January 18, 2009 1:02 pm
Dan, thanks for the link to the article.
John should know better for next time to not poke a wounded and tormented animal. Sarcasm doesn’t work too well on the internet. Knowing how angry Sony fans are, and rightfully so, what did he expect from writting a rant like that. Ya see where I’m going? He should have known better. He should have been more professional.
on January 18, 2009 1:16 pm
I think it’s wrong to bash people back and forth about games. I am not a fanboy I like the 360 and the ps3, I will say I am extremely excited for kz2 and it made me want a ps3 very bad. It’s not because of the hype or articles, it’s just because of what I saw, it looks almost as good as crysis to me.
What I ask of you as pro Journalists is – Please review this game without the hype or any bias in your heads, if it’s a badly made game or a well made game treat it as such. Forget the hype and the idiot fanboys (both ps3 and xbox) and forget what system it’s on.
It doesn’t matter if this game was on 360 or ps3 to me it looks great (I was in the beta also, fun!) and fanboys on both systems are equally as immature. I love many 360 games and ps3 games, I feel like a nerd right now, all i’m trying to say is please don’t punish this game just because of idiots.
on January 18, 2009 1:16 pm
@ Dan Landis
Whilst I feel that the general premise of this article is ok: Stop overhyping games, you definitely executed it poorly.
Saying you played a game for a few minutes, then watched others doesnt really give you a solid ground to pass judgement. This doesnt even pass as a preview as you didnt comment on any aspects of the game as far as I can tell??
Also I take it from the smiley at the end that your “It wont sell ps3’s because I wouldnt buy one for KZ2″ comment was a joke right? Cos thats not very good logic at all!
Why most of the defense of the game has focussed on the Multiplayer part I’m guessing, is because its the part of the game that most of the non-media have actually *played*, and most probably Extensively.
Even sites like Kotaku which none would argue are pro-ps3 wrote a piece a while back stating that the Multiplayer was excellent, as the graphics.
So you see its a combination of having people having really played the game (BETA), and sites like Kotaku which will gladly rip into ps3 if deemed fit praising Killzone 2, which have helped hype the game.
The graphics have been widely praised also by a variety of sites hence more hype.
The single player has also been praised by those who have reviewed the final build hence yet more hype.
Sites like IGN have compared the E3 2005 trailer to the final build and its clear that in some areas Guerilla have surpassed that quality hence more hype.
It all adds up to a picture of a game that looks super sweet with hype that is justified.
“It is not a killer ap. it will not move systems”. How can you state this as fact when 1) its had tons of positive reviews/hype, 2) You dont know what Marketing plans Sony has got in store? 3) You havent even actually played the final build/completed it hence you dont know if the game really is awesome and might sell a ton based off word of mouth alone????????
You ‘curse’ IGN to this day for giving GTA4 a 10, well then I suppose you curse Ripten your employer to this day for giving Gears 2/Halo 3 a 10 when (as you admit) they dont deserve it?
Should have just kept this short and sweet: ” I havent played much or know how the story really pans out, it looks a good game lets just not get too excited like with GTA 4 which I feel wasnt all that great.” No need for sales or killer app talk before it drops or youve even had the full experience.
But that would be a pretty pointless and insignificant little piece right?
I dont know any serious critic who would watch 5 minutes of a movie then a few snipets here and there and tell people it isnt going to be a box office hit. That would just be really short sighted. Also how many average movies have sold in the millions?
P.S It doesnt seem like youre much of a gamer if you still dont have a PS3, peddling the old PS3 has no games. Theres got to be at least a few that tickle your interest and I assume you can afford to have both/all the consoles so why not? Hopefully not some grudge against Sony? In fact you would assume *all* game journalists run all platforms.
on January 18, 2009 1:24 pm
I would love to buy a PS3 someday but now looking at these insane moronic comments i am afraid something automatically will happen to my brain if i buy one .
Scary people , PS3 fanboys !
on January 18, 2009 1:24 pm
@ Dan Landis
Also pointing everyone that defends your opinion as “enlightened”, whilst everyone who disagrees “retarded” doesnt really help your case too much. It doenst take a masters in psychology to see whats going on there. Nor doe it make you look any less retarded than them. Havent you ever heard the phrase “dont stoop to their level” ?
These ‘kids’ as you call them have got you in an internet name-calling fest thats ridiculous, sorry.
on January 18, 2009 1:31 pm
Aww, wittle Xbot is pissed that his 90th 360 is now over the hill and the good shit is about to hit the PS3. Go on a diet you fat bald fuck, and get laid.
Hating gamings systems is laughably pathetic.
on January 18, 2009 1:35 pm
Love the irony of an ‘article’ looking to stop hype actually resulting in hyping the game even more…
An intelligent journalist might have planned this, but I see none of those on this site.
on January 18, 2009 1:42 pm
Why does Metal Gear Solid4 Sucks? a little bitt info please? And by the wy i think you ar gay.
on January 18, 2009 1:50 pm
Well… rather than taking an objective journalistic approach – you’ve just lost all credibility you had.
Sorry, mate. You failed as soon as you said H3 held the “crown”. LOL. COD4 ripped it out of H3’s cold dead hands just WEEKS after releases… on the 360 alone ;) Not to mention the millions and millions more sold between PS3 and 360. COD4 moved to the top of the most played XBL charts shortly after release and stayed there way the heck longer than H3.
I’ll say Hype is bad and KZ2 has to go head on with the giant known as COD4.
But writing an article because you’re butthurt that people hype/like a video game?
SAD LOL.
I’ve still yet to see the same hype as H3, tho. I see no KZ2 adverts on pop cans, drink cups in restaurants, etc.
So the HYPE meter falls way short of that of H3 at the time.
So… where’s your H3 article? OH. NVM. It’s just cool to bash Sony and Sony exclusives.
Well then, nevermind and continue on with your childish, ignorant and fanboyish articles, whelp.
on January 18, 2009 1:51 pm
this is getting pretty funny after reading all of the comments. yes dan and john are acting unprofessional by stooping to the commenters and fanboys level and the unnecessary cursing but still all the fanboys aren’t any better. both parties are wrong and should really stop to preserve the little respect they have left.
on January 18, 2009 1:53 pm
P.P.S
@ John Landis
Say I choose to get the cheapest 360 at $199, throw in live at $39-49.99, plus e.g. gears 2 at $60.00, plus wireless at $99 cause I dont want to run or drill holes in my house just for online gaming.
Exactly how much does that add up?? About $410.
(And thats assuming I want to plunk for the seems-cheap-but-actualy-expensive Arcade.)
Or I drop $399 plud $60-70 for KZ2. Your talking a $50-60 difference. Just responding to your: “it’s not going to mean jack shit because no one is willing to go out and blow a thousand dollars on a fucking gaming system just to play one shitty game”
Where on earth are you getting a $1000 from? Oh I see… ur ANUS.
on January 18, 2009 1:56 pm
Cmon.. leave Dan Landis alone, he’s not a fanboy, he’s just retarded and a attention whore :/
on January 18, 2009 1:59 pm
You mentioned a killer ap is a game which will make the masses buy a console by millions…
So according to your logic, wii fit is a killer ap?
Please just shut the fuck up, don’t even try to defend your silly article which is worth being in a forum post, by a random,I-have-vested-interests kind of guy.
on January 18, 2009 2:13 pm
Help! Dan Landis is trying to kill me!
on January 18, 2009 2:20 pm
Who gives a shit about you?
on January 18, 2009 2:21 pm
Who gives a **** about you?
on January 18, 2009 2:37 pm
Cmon Dan give in. You know you fucked the wrong Game and now you gotta take the consequences.
on January 18, 2009 2:41 pm
I hope you know, Dan, that you’re only hyping up KZ2 more with this article.
So, thanks! :D
on January 18, 2009 2:43 pm
Thanks, Beedias, but I generally don’t have sex with my games.
on January 18, 2009 2:43 pm
Man the “editors” on this site are really retarded. Seriously, flame wars happen all the time, but this is the only site where employess encourage them.
I will be seriously glad when all of these BS gaming rags go away. I hope this recession makes it happen. I liked it a lot better when gaming rags had insights, not cussing high school drop outs fighting over clicks.
Anyone who disagrees over this articles is said to be retarded and anyone who agrees is pragmatic. WTF! BTW, Did any of you english majors ever write a single line of code or anything like that? And that dude John Landis. Acting like he is the lone warrior fighting fanboys. I would say again, if you don’t like this site, adblock it, drop their ad revenues and let them burn.
Seriously this shit has got to stop. KZ2 met all the target renders and everything. Stll these broke ass walmart types who can’t afford a PS keep ragging on every which exclusive.
on January 18, 2009 3:07 pm
HC,
People that disagree with me aren’t automatically retarded. People that fail to understand the point and flame me because of it are retarded.
There are a few comments that agree with the point of the article but disagree with my idea that Killzone 2 won’t be a killer app and move tons of systems. Those people are not retarded. They think Killzone 2 will be a killer app and they might be right, but they at least don’t disagree with me for immature reasons like “Killzone 2 is teh uberz”. There’s a difference, and I would hope that people can see that.
on January 18, 2009 3:08 pm
Don’t really see the issue with this article. Killzone 2 IS being overhyped a bit. For the record I think the game is going to be amazing and I’ve already pre-ordered it, but the hype is really going overboard.
The author is not saying the game is going to suck and isn’t even really criticizing the game itself, more so the rabid fanboys who are making it out to be more than what it is. And IMO this is something that needed to be said.
on January 18, 2009 3:14 pm
What a load of tosh. Hype it up guys ! This game is gonna blow all other console FPS’ out of the water !
Credit where credit’s due.
on January 18, 2009 3:33 pm
Yeah, credit is due to the author for having common sense and making a logical argument against the hype. I think Killzone 2 might actually be a system seller, so that I disagree with, but that’s his opinion and we shouldn’t flame him for it. Anyone that does is just failing to see the big picture and showing the world why gamers are considered to be so immature.
on January 18, 2009 3:53 pm
Thank you for pointing this stuff out! I get tired of people hyping the fuck outta Killzone 2, and while I think it’ll be a good game; I don’t think any game should attract this much hype. The official playstation boards is the worst though.. I swear, every time someone posts a review where Killzone 2 doesn’t get a 10/10 you’ll get people running in saying the review is biased garbage. (they even called the OPM review, which was a 9/10, a biased review)
on January 18, 2009 4:12 pm
Dan,
You did say that a few comments up. Then your good buddy John came in to class things up a bit.
You might be right about the hype for KZ2. But then again, what are you suggesting? That gaming rags stop running KZ stories? That fans stop talking about it? It is a good game judging from the beta.
Here’s why PS people get mad about articles like this. Everytime a good game comes out, there is always some BS going on with the media. Its like you people can’t just enjoy a game and you have rile things up. Gears ranked higher on story than MGS4 on GT. Really! Right now, there are so many XBox people just hoping and praying that this game tanks its not even funny. Just now I was listening to a podcast on bingegamer and some idiot was saying that he hopes this game fails so he would not hear the term Halo killer again.
Seriously, MS execs and its fanboys are some of the worst, classless people I have ever seen. PS fanboys cry and moan just like any other fanboys, but they bitch about the games. XBox fanboys like your good friend John are just retarded.
Will anyone explain to me why the hell woulld you not buy a PS if you like games? The 360 has the same 2-3 games Gears, Too Human, Fable and what not.
People are creating a stink over KZ, I am waiting till Heavy Rain hits. That is one game that would generate a lot of hate as well. I don’t think you guys understand what people like me, grew up playing nintendo, in their late 20’s-30’s, having disposable income are looking for. You know why I don’t have a 360. I could afford to buy one every week. I don’t have one because it does not have anything other than the 2-3 games. It is loud and unreliable.
Your wasn’t the first article today hating on KZ. Gamesradar and bingegamer joined in. I don’t really care coz PS exclusives are a first day buy for me, for the most part. But seriously, get a grip.
on January 18, 2009 4:26 pm
The only thing i see with this article is the fact that it allows bile and hatred grow in abundance.
On the article, it was a good one full of valid points. Sure the article could have been written when gears2 came out but it didn’t. No it got made on Killzone2. And it is true.
Yes i have played the game (beta) and although it’s a cracking game with the fact that you can choose a certain class and each class has it’s own special (loosely used) it offers you alot of diversity in the online arena. Yet the controls are fiddly the time it takes to click the R3(change it to L1) to look down the barrel some one has just blind fired you. Yes some can call it more tactical but it does not offer smooth gameplay. And what cover system does it have? The type that you just stand behind something and thats it. Unless the SP has a more defined cover system i know not.
They hype is not worth it. It does not improve on the first game in my opinion despite all the money that was thrown at it.
This article has nothing to do with fanboyism. No some ps3 owners just get too jarred at some truths. Look at HAZE. Look at GTA4. LBP, and MGS4 (abbriviations ftw) rewards the hype with outstanding everything in every department. To all that moans about MGS4 being a film. What did you expect from the series as all the games (bar the msx ones) have been the same.
One more point why is no one mentioning Heavy Rain. Made with alot less money than Killzone2 yet has the potential to redefine the way we play games plus it looks much nicer than Killzone2. Gurrilla are not that good of a developer to change the dynamics of the FPS genre the way say Infinity Ward did. Yet the have enough skill to give us another FPS we will throw on top of the pile after we get bored of the game. It’s a triple a title but not worth the hype it has been given.
NOTE: Why does Gears have to come into it. The article was about the hype of Killzone 2 Nothing more nothing less.
on January 18, 2009 4:32 pm
Like hype is ever going to stop or be any different to it is now, when big title games and films come close to release hype is what happens, is this something new then?
on January 18, 2009 4:36 pm
“Seriously though, I’m an idiot and I look like I have asperger’s” -John Landis
You can’t REALLY be serious… It’s like you tried to wrong about as much you could in a single comment.
on January 18, 2009 5:25 pm
IAMweasel
“It’s a triple a title but not worth the hype it has been given.”
“It does not improve on the first game in my opinion despite all the money that was thrown at it.”
The problems you list are controls, Im sure I read a few comments on this when the beta hit- its possible that Guerrila fixed this for the final no? They have apparently fixed the AI, gun-weighting and pacing of the single-player campaign since the beta, for example. Check IGN’s “five quick fixes for KZ2″. Just saying :)
From what I can tell the game has excellent graphics and looks fun and exciting to play, thats why Im ‘hyped’, plus I liked Liberation on PSP a lot so can only imagine how good it’ll be on PS3.
I think people aren’t hyping Heavy rain as we havent seen much- all Ive seen looks like CG movies with QTE’s. Thats one game Im not sure any hype is justified for.. anyways regards KZ2 we shall all see come February.
on January 18, 2009 5:28 pm
I’m not a professional writer or some sort of industry insider. I have a real job. I just sort of do this every once in a while for shits and giggles. Hell, my name isn’t anywhere on the site saying that I write for them, so why would you think that I’m at all a representative of the rest of this site?
Everyone here is just a gamer, not some “professional journalist”. Some of them do write for other sites and just slum it for Ripten, but we all write in our own way here. Our opinions aren’t gospel and opinion pieces shouldn’t be flamed because you somehow interpret our opinions as facts. We don’t say they are facts, we just write our opinions. It’s your own fucking fault if you hold us at a higher level for some reason and we all of the sudden aren’t allowed to be opinionated anymore without you asshole fanboys being, well, assholes.
Keep sending your hate mail to clakkis@ripten.com and tell him you hate me and Dan and that we should be fucking fired. We should be banned from writing anything ever again, even commenting on stories. DO IT!! Try at least though to spell your words out and use at least a bit of proper sentence structure and not bullshit like “fir john bacaz he is dum and i hat him he swore and is unprofesonal!”
on January 18, 2009 6:40 pm
“Everyone here is just a gamer, not some “professional journalist”. Some of them do write for other sites and just slum it for Ripten, but we all write in our own way here. Our opinions aren’t gospel and opinion pieces shouldn’t be flamed because you somehow interpret our opinions as facts. We don’t say they are facts, we just write our opinions”- John Landis
Thanks for confirming this site is a waste of time for peoples gaming news. You heard it, folks. We can all ignore Ripten from now on. No more hits!
on January 18, 2009 6:46 pm
John Landis, you’re an idiot. Professional or not, your replies show how ignorant and immature you are. I’m not all that surprise, this is Ripten after all.
Also, why does this dude look like a generic Guile? I take that back, dude looks like Rufus from Street Fighter IV lol
on January 18, 2009 7:03 pm
Why do you look like a goomba?
on January 18, 2009 8:55 pm
Someone needs to step on him perhaps.
on January 18, 2009 10:16 pm
Is this comments section “Gamers Daycare” or something?
Why is everyone acting like 10 year old children (even the editors of the site!). Most Gaming sites just either delete or ignore stupid fanboy comments, but these editors actually go right into the flame war. Just Ignore.
Just calm down. You all are fighting over a GAME. A game that hasn’t even released yet!!!
on January 18, 2009 11:54 pm
Attention whore is an attention whore(much like this site)
this Dan guy needs to be fired but guess what?by clicking on this stupid article we secured him his job(he brought clicks to this website after all) . it’s ok,,,his name/credibility(if he had any to begin with) is ruined .
the only good response for this moron is from sites like Sony defense force.
Halo 3 Vs. Killzone 2(graphical comparison):
http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/kz2halo32.jpg
BURNNNNNNN
on January 19, 2009 2:15 am
Last time I checked, the best graphics do not equal the best game.
on January 19, 2009 3:58 am
SDF.. it all makes sense now. That’s where all these rabid ps3 fans are coming from. Someone needs to spray that site for pests.
on January 19, 2009 4:14 am
this site seems to be typical
Gears of war2 is 10/10 ->??
Gears of war 1 is very impressed and shocks to me
but 2 is normal and not perfect
on January 19, 2009 5:04 am
Congratulations for saying the same thing 50 other people here have said.
on January 19, 2009 5:26 am
Everybody needs to come down for the PS3 fanboys ripten.com? site is pretty much is the joke of game industry, shit I’d say its mediocre at best. I’m sure people first stop to game previews, trailers or reviews is to ripten.com. The only buzz/hits they can get is giving PS3 majority hits piss poor scores, and how they think games like Killzone 2, Gears, Halo are overrated (what should be hype Mantels Barbie?). The real truth here is if it weren’t for the playstation brand what would these guys have to write? The 2 XBOX 360 triple AAA exclusive a year? 360 secret games of 2009? The hardcore Wii games?
on January 19, 2009 5:44 am
well one things for sure, this guy’s got this website’s name spread around, I’d never heard of it before, it’s just unfortunate that anyone following the links to this article will see that the site (or at least some of it’s writers) are far from professional, I mean arguing with posters, swearing like crazy. I would think most people, like myself, would take this article for what it is i.e worthless, and be totally put off returning to this site which seems to be run by amateurs.
sorry I forgot to swear..bollocks!
on January 19, 2009 6:22 am
i don’t think it’s been hyped enough.. sony need to pull fingers out of their collective posterior and get some advertising out there about this thing.. we need to get some interest from people other than fanbois that spend all day on the internet (including me). splash it on the tv on bill boards and, yes, mcdonlads cups, carpet bomb bagdad with flyers for the game, get the logo projected on the face of big ben, hell putting ads somewhere other that OPM and YouToob would be a start..
hype boys and girls.. hype like you’ve never hyped before.. and hope sony don’t screw the pooch on this one.. (what are the odds??)
on January 19, 2009 6:44 am
Thing is people say to much hype but if you don’t like hype then don’t read everything that’s written about it, if you see another article about KZ2 then just ignore it and make your own mind up when it’s released, simple. Let’s face it anyway if this was an xbox title this article would of never been written, that says it all really.
on January 19, 2009 7:17 am
If the game has the best graphics, it is something. KZ has graphics that beat out anything availabl on any console or even the PC (bar maybe Crysis but I like KZ’s artistic style better). Guerilla deserves to get an apology just for meeting the target renders from 2005.
I have never seen anyone ragging on its own industry so much. You guys should be glad better and better games are showing up.
Seriously Dan, give it pause. The whole article was an elaborate brain fart and you know it. Rag on a game if it fails to deliver, that’s fine. But ragging on a game if people are excited about it and talking about it is like, who does that.
on January 19, 2009 9:03 am
The only thing Dan did wrong with his article was to think the majority of people he tried to adress will have brain enough to read between the lines and get out the point he was stating. All he did was talking about a psychological phenomenon called “Overhyping” and you guys started a flame war here.
The article didn’t fail because its bad. It failed because there is nearly no person here wich has a brain.
And that people dont read carefully here is pretty obvious as many of you confused John with Dan.
And Johns first post was a joke and never meant to be serious but you guys missed it again.
@Dan
i feel sorry for you as your target group consists mainly of immature kids thinking that Playstation and Killzone is like their binky wich got taken away from them now.
now you guys can start to flame me but i don’t bother if you do.
I totally agree with Dans article and i own a PS3 and will play Killzone2 because its a great game.
cheers everyone
on January 19, 2009 10:51 am
Looks like the Landiseseses got KILLZOWNED. Fantastic article btw, will visit again
on January 19, 2009 11:37 am
What’s funny, novikthewise, is that even when an intelligent person like yourself understands the article and explains it for all the kids, they will still not get it.
But thanks to everyone that has the capacity to process thoughts logically. It’s too rare these days.
on January 19, 2009 11:40 am
He’s not ragging on it! He said it’s a great game! Why do so many people miss that part?
on January 19, 2009 3:57 pm
In a way I agree, cause hype can ruin games, and I am still buying killzone 2 but I keep the hype to the minimum.
People really misunderstood you, but you should not have acted in such a manner(cursing, telling people to fuck off), that may be bad for your career.
On the other hand John Landis, acted like a total child, and he should fuck off.
on January 19, 2009 4:00 pm
finally its over
on January 19, 2009 4:35 pm
EA, I hope you were being sarcastic. Otherwise, your comment reeks of hypocrisy.
And I know that nothing I’ve done here is going to get me “fired”. Chad would die if I wasn’t here.
on January 19, 2009 7:35 pm
Yet another reason to hate EA.
on January 20, 2009 8:30 am
Dan,
The article is a good piece, and one I agree with – over-hyping games is a good way to kill games. GTAIV was the given example, and was exactly what I was thinking while reading. I bought it because it got so many perfect scores and even entire podcasts dedicated to it, and when I got it in my hands, the luster wore off very quickly.
I don’t like to see games get so severely over-hyped that expectations get so high that the game has no choice but to disappoint. Movies also fall into this trap; Iron Man was supposed to be so awesome, but when I saw it, it was just cheesy and corny, with Burger King ads.
Only one thing kinda bugs me here, and it doesn’t relate so much to the article as it does to the follow-up comments.
“I’ve actually gotten my hands on Killzone 2 for just a few minutes, but I also hung around and watched other people play it rather extensively.”
It’s a little hypocritical to judge Killzone 2 based on “a few minutes” of play, and then bash your commenters with sarcasm because they are excited for a “game that hasn’t released yet.” If you’ve only managed to play for a few minutes, then your opinion (about the game itself, that is) is not based on nearly as much ground as the people who actually played it day in and day out while the beta was running…
Watching people play a game isn’t the same thing as actually playing it. (If it were, you could just head over to GameTrailers and review games that aren’t due to release for another year or two.)
It’s also possible that you are in the extreme minority of people who don’t think the game is all that, as I appear to be with Halo and Halo 2 (never played Halo 3, only saw videos, so I can’t judge it).
For you to hurl insults at your commenters, however fanboyish they may be, is surprising. But then, I don’t spend a lot of my time on Ripten, so maybe it’s commonplace for staff here to break their own Commenting Rules… Do as you say, not as you do, I assume?
on January 20, 2009 2:19 pm
Dana,
“Hurling insults” isn’t something Ripten as a whole does on a constant basis. I tend to make sarcastic remarks and “insults” to people that are being unreasonable. As I’ve stated before, I’m perfectly willing to accept other people’s opinions on how great Killzone 2 is, but the people that call me an idiot because I don’t report as fact that Killzone 2 is the BEST GAME EVAR, those people do not deserve my leniency.
Commenting rules are “no hate speech”. In general, the only things we are against are racial slurs and the like. Even though I’ve allowed so many people to call me “gay”, that is something that is generally frowned upon as well. I also feel that my responses are following the rule of “debating intelligently” because it takes a certain level of intelligence to make such smart-ass comments ^_^
As far as my judgments on Killzone 2, are you saying that I shouldn’t call it great? That’s one thing that still irks me is how many people ignore the fact that I said the game was great. And yes, I do think you can be impressed by a game just by playing a few minutes and then watching other people play. Otherwise, how can so many people call it the GREATEST GAME EVAR when most of them haven’t even played it themselves?
The bottom line is that Killzone 2 deserves attention, but it does not deserve the hype of “BEST GAME EVAR”. That kind of hype always leads to disappointment, and that’s something I don’t want for my fellow gamers.
on January 20, 2009 2:37 pm
dan,maybe chad likes how you swallow his load thats why he wont fire you.but if you keep writing garbage pieces like this one,even he will tire of your mouth and writing skills.”played the game like 5 minutes and watched non xtwats playing” what are you like carnack?did you rub the controller on your twat and “felt” the game was not worth the hype?
on January 20, 2009 6:16 pm
The only thing that I hate more than retarded 12 year old fanboy comments with no real facts in them are in this case:
Look at all the ps3 fanboys at full anger today…
Come on…, the people that say this know that if the article were against their system, they would say the same
Also, the comments that say that Dan should be fired are complete bs. Just look at the amount of people Dan’s articles bring, just look at the number of comments.
on January 20, 2009 6:45 pm
That’s the thing a lot of commenters still seem to be missing: This article is not “against” the PS3 in any way, and that is why the fanboys fail so hard with their comments.
on January 20, 2009 10:54 pm
Anything that doesn’t declare PS3 the best system ever and it’s games the greatest games of all time is automatically “against the PS3″.
I guess you didn’t get that memo. (Someone’s head will roll for that, let me tell you..)
on January 21, 2009 5:43 am
I like DavidGX’s point. It’s like how now if you don’t agree with something the president says or does you will be deemed a racist. Dan, I think the article is just fine. I only wonder how you can muster up the energy to keep going back to debate with rabid fanboys. I do play Gears 2 online and, although it’s nowhere near as smooth as the Live greatness that was CoD4, I enjoy it. I’ve never once experienced anything so awful that I threw my controller down and swore off Gears 2 online for all of eternity. Maybe KZ2’s online works better. Good for you PS3 people. I actually hope KZ2 is a good game. Lord knows the PS3 needs one…
on January 21, 2009 12:45 pm
you retards that side with dan miss one huge point,his article was reaking of xbot favoritism.where was he when gaylo 3 was beeing hyped to the next oblivion?where was he when gears 2 was coming out?i didnt hear any1 whineing about hype then.but god forbide we ps3 fans get hyped about a game that’s hugely needed right now,and then all these “game journalist” come out the woodwork talking about how we should mellow out and wait for the game to come.my point,when should we ps3fans get excited??then dan says it wont turn xtwats into ps3 fans,well i started on the crapbox 360 till it rrod 4 times,one time the plug&play wouldnt work the finally thru in the towel.my ps3 has never failed me and i know my ps3 is future proof,while the crapbox has 1 and 1/2 left to go. so to end it with a bang ,dan i suggest you tell microsoft thanks but no thanks and return that laptop they gave you and write real pieces that dont reak of fanboyism.
on January 21, 2009 1:02 pm
Crazyspider, don’t get so upset man, Let me tell you why. By criticizing the Hype, Dan is actually adding to it. At the end of the day it is just another article the the game Killzone 2 in it. See?
Look past the words and the replies making fun of Playstation “fanboys” by 360 “fanboys” and see the article for what it is. Hey, I’m like you, I own a 360 and it rrod’s and I got a PS3 and use that mostly, I didn’t give up on the 360 I just use it for exclusives now. Don’t bust a vein over this, man.
on January 22, 2009 12:20 am
Using the word “xbot” removes all credibility from a post, so I usually don’t read past that point.
on January 22, 2009 12:14 pm
sack this dude
on January 22, 2009 6:06 pm
If by “sack this dude” you mean “lick this dude’s sack because he is so awesome” then I totally agree with you.
on January 22, 2009 9:16 pm
Gaylo 3? Halo 3 is a amazing game. Its hype was built from the fans that had Halo 1&2 without Halo, the xbox would fall apart. (I love xbox and PS3)You need to chill spyder. Dan was just trying to say that nothing has been really reveled for it yet, but yet people are raving like its Best game of all time. wait for the game demo or the game itself before getting all “fucking OMG” on the game. Keep up the great work Dan!
on January 24, 2009 11:40 am
gaylo 3 was garbage i played all three,the first one was the best after that bungie ran out of ideas,only douche bags loved the 3rd one.graphics looked like shit story was retarded..i thought he was supposed to die??and they ruined the flood with new ones that morphed into 3 different characters.bottom line gaylo 3 sucked!!!!killzone 2 is my kind of game,realistic lookling gameplay and no retarded 3 year olds screaming on wireless headgear from microsoft that doesnt work(buzzing noise)and on a system thats reliable(had 4 rrod’s on crapbox)and isnt the same shit repackeged(gaylo will be crapbox’s returning and only true exclusive for life)playstation f.t.w.!!!!!!!!!!!
on January 25, 2009 9:58 am
Your an idiot to say Halo 1 was the best. I agree with you somewhat when saying not much has been improved from Halo 2 – 3, But the jump from 1 – 2 was really great.
Halo is just another game that falls into the spectrum of bore games after you play it a lot. The game that has come closest to being the best game ever (not ever getting boring) is COD 4 for me, but it still does get boring. Just because of the combinations of the weapons and perks and prestige.
Maybe K2 will come close to not getting boring for a long time because of everything I’ve heard from Beta testers about the online.
on January 26, 2009 8:18 am
I find it absolutely ridiculous that this one post has seemingly caused such an uproar. I don’t see what was so offensive about the content within it!
It’s crucial to understand that hype is an inevitability when we’re dealing with major development landmarks within games – like exceptionally good graphics or a new way to play a game (See: Nintendo Wii). Furthermore, the amount of time and money this game, and many others like it (See: Halo 1, 2, 3), make it an absolute necessity that publishers and development teams get as much media exposure as possible, otherwise fewer people will be aware and hence fewer will buy and play the game.
We need hype. I guess what I am saying is that it is a necessary evil, even when overhype leads to a slight disappointment. But think of this, if a game was not hyped sufficiently and it turned out to be a fantastic, genre defining experience for the masses – how gutted would you feel? In fact, who cares about you, the individual? The publisher would drop the game for lack of sales (or interest) and the development team that produced the game would go bust!
Hype = Sales = Profits = More great games from great developers.
We really do not stand to lose very much at all from this scenario.
And to Dan Landis, I feel you’ve done yourself no favors by replying to these aggressive and distasteful posts with much of the same aggression and distaste. Surely you are better than that! So what if someone wants to express their zeal for a game that you, an apparently seasoned professional, do not seem to appreciate? Let the dog have it’s bone, even if the bone’s not yet released.
Let’s all just wait patiently for this games release and then decide on whether or not it is the game that hype promised. I know that I’ll be content, nay happy, so long as it doesn’t pull a Haze.
on January 26, 2009 8:36 am
Bagat said, “Your an idiot to say Halo 1 was the best.”
And who are you sir, to say that he’s an idiot for having an opinion?
Some might say you are in fact the idiot for ridiculing someone’s right to an opinion.
You also said, “Halo is just another game that falls into the spectrum of bore games after you play it a lot.”
My friend, please examine what you have just said. Doesn’t doing anything repetitively eventually lead to the entertainment value extracted from it to be reduced? How many grapes can you eat before you get bored of the taste? Obviously, the longevity of any recreational activity will vary greatly from person to person – we are all unique. So your justification for being anti-Halo is inherently flawed.
on January 26, 2009 8:48 am
I’d also like to say that the gaming community needs to embrace the fact that there is a multi platform set up.
Simple economics teaches us that competition is not only healthy and beneficial, but it is necessary for efficiency and quality.
Without it, we have the Windows scenario – where effectively the same operating system was released year after year with upgraded skins (See: Windows 95-98-ME). Windows Vista is the product of a lack of competition. Nothing can compete with the installer base Windows XP has racked up.
Imagine if Xbox fanboys get their wish of Xbox 360 dominance. Suddenly, since it’s the only console on earth, there is no need for Microsoft to invest in research and development for an Xbox 720 or an Xbox 1080. And yes, Microsoft are exactly the kind of power hungry company that this precise scenario appeals to.
Ultimately, it is us, the consumer who will benefit from competition. It means that consoles will be sold at a loss to the company selling it, if necessary, in order that the install base is established – without the PS3, what incentive does Microsoft have to reducing prices? If it’s the only console in the market, it can be priced at a £1000 a pop and we could do nothing about it. Console gaming would be destroyed.
Competition improves the quality of our gaming lifestyle. Embrace your fanboy opposite and let’s stop this crazy banter that many, unfortunately, take oh so seriously.
on January 26, 2009 12:22 pm
Many well-said thoughts, Osman. Much appreciated.
on January 27, 2009 8:38 pm
i say we all just beat up on dan for getting us riled-up and then play killzone 2 f.t.w.!!!!!!!
on January 27, 2009 8:41 pm
hahahahahahhahhahahahhahhahahhahaha
on January 29, 2009 4:35 am
You’re cool Osman!!!!!!!!!!
on January 29, 2009 5:16 am
Thanks buddy, I know
on February 4, 2009 3:44 pm
I think that the reason so many PS3 owners are buying into the hype of KZ2, is because SOCOM Confrontation was such a flop. WE WANT there to be another game our clans can grab ahold of and be our “main game”. Many of us bought into the hype of SOCOM Confrontation, then were sorely disappointed. I don’t know why we’d fall for the hype again, but it seems much of us have :(
I for one, will not be buying into the hype by preordering a game to get an early demo. That’s back asswards if you ask me.
I’ll wait and see what happens when everyone buys the game and is online with it. If it passes muster, I’ll be getting it… not a moment sooner.
When you look at all those used SOCOM Confrontation games sitting on the shelf at Gamestop, you have to wonder what the hell went wrong.
on February 6, 2009 12:44 pm
Shit are hyped when people expect it to be good.
on March 1, 2009 7:01 am
Well killzone was released, I’ve bought it, played it and it certainly deserves the 9/10 that PlayStation Magazine UK gave it.