Why John Carmack Thinks The PS3 Is The “Second Best Console Ever Made”

When I was down at Quake Con last week, I got to hear id Software‘s legendary technical director John Carmack speak about all sorts of things.  His keynote lasted more than 90 minutes and throughout, you could clearly tell that John had become a fan of Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console, and far less a fan of Sony’s Playstation 3.  As a PC gamer myself, which console John prefers developing for means little to me (although it is interesting to hear him discuss it) but I know a lot of our readers are console gamers and they definitely want to know what a development icon like John really thinks about their favorite gaming machines.

Luckily enough, John walked into the press room as I was eating lunch one fine day and I had the opportunity to ask him all about what it’s like being a multi-platform developer in today’s gaming world.

"Swizzle Your Gigatexels Dave, Trust me"

John and I spoke for roughly 20 minutes about various topics, including the aforementioned multi-platform development.  While I can’t recall all of what we spoke about, there was one comment I remember extremely well.  That came when I asked him, “So, what do you really think about the PS3?”

His response?

“Well, it’s the second best console ever made”

He smiled and I laughed.

“What’s the first?” I replied

“The 360″

Shame, I was hoping he’d say the Sega Dreamcast.  ^__^

John says it’s not so much the power of the PS3 as it is the dev tools, which he says simply aren’t as good.

However, he did also say that there are places in RAGE where the PS3 works and performs better because the cells have more total processing power.

One thing is for sure.  Even if John thinks that the PS3 is a bigger pain in the ass to develop on, both versions of RAGE look damn near equal. (I’ve played them both) This is simply a testament to the team at id, and the genius of John Carmack.

Stay tuned to RipTen for continued coverage of RAGE and all things id.

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  • Anon89

    Tired of hearing about this guy and his opinions..

  • Dave Oshry

    but but but, It’s teh Carmack!!

  • Dave Oshry

    but but but, It’s teh Carmack!!

  • Daush

    Yeahh! Its the guy who made doom, and quake!! Took him like 5 years to make the new id engine, and some games out there for a long time still look better xD.

  • http://profiles.google.com/timothypatricklarkin Timothy Larkin

    The FPS genre would not exist without “this guy”.

  • Dracob

    PS3 fan obviuosly then.  Get used to 2nd place!

  • April

    Dracob, Get used to being a casual Kinect gamer because those are the only exclusives you’ll have for quite some time after Gears 3.

    GET USED TO IT! lol

  • April

    Dracob, Get used to being a casual Kinect gamer because those are the only exclusives you’ll have for quite some time after Gears 3.

    GET USED TO IT! lol

  • April

    Dracob, Get used to being a casual Kinect gamer because those are the only exclusives you’ll have for quite some time after Gears 3.

    GET USED TO IT! lol

  • http://farzansreviews.blogspot.com/ NEW P4TH

    Carmack is an honest guy and he clearly knows what hes talking about. Hes one of the best game programmers ever and if he says the PS3 is difficult to develop for than I believe him. He ain’t the only one too you know. People always bring up the Uncharted and Killzone arguments yet they fail to realize those are made from Sony first party developers. They wouldn’t be allowed to speak negatively about the PS3 even though they probably want too.

  • Dracob

    @217c8ea12e0fbdcf5b1a4e65d5d3d99b:disqus

  • http://tfmdvd.com Joe

    “Dracob, Get used to being a casual Kinect gamer because those are the
    only exclusives you’ll have for quite some time after Gears 3.”

    Haha, I love how people attack the Kinect as if Sony didn’t try their hand at a motion schtick. If Sony were supporting Move, you’d never hear that.

  • Dracob

    Sorry dude I just had my head way up my ass!!

    No Joke!

    the 360 sucks and so does the PS3

    We all know that N64 followed by PS1 are the best console’s ever made

  • Dracob

    blow me bitch!!!

  • Sdfsss

    but sony isnt focusing on casuals 360 is…..

  • April

    Unlike Kinect, Move actually is getting some support with Hardcore first party games such as Killzone 3, Socom 4 and others so you FAIL!

  • CrzyFooL

    “However, he did also say that there are places
    in RAGE where the PS3 works and performs better because the cells have
    more total processing power.” Ok, so what I’ve managed to
    gather from all these Carmack tidbits and interviews is that he prefers
    to develop on the 360 because of the superior dev tools and Microsoft’s
    debugging process, but that the PS3 is extremely powerful, if not more
    so when used properly. All I know is that I’m glad RAGE looks just as good on PS3, even if it was a pain in the ass for id to do it.

    #1

  • Dave Oshry

    I like this CrzyFool guy… he speaks the truth :-p

  • Dave Oshry

    I like this CrzyFool guy… he speaks the truth :-p

  • Mic

    The best console ever made has 52.4% failure rate, using old tech as DVD
    and has no HDMI at launch? Is this guy on drug or what? LOL

  • Mic

    The best console ever made has 52.4% failure rate, using old tech as DVD
    and has no HDMI at launch? Is this guy on drug or what? LOL

  • http://tfmdvd.com Joe

    Actually Sony fails at supporting their product. Coulda swore that was mentioned up there… and “hardcore”? Man I hate that term. Like it’s so friggin’ hardcore to sit on the couch for 15 hours in a row.

  • http://tfmdvd.com Joe

    Actually Sony fails at supporting their product. Coulda swore that was mentioned up there… and “hardcore”? Man I hate that term. Like it’s so friggin’ hardcore to sit on the couch for 15 hours in a row.

  • April

    Yeah… failed to support

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_Move

    looks like more than 50 games on that list.. once again you Fail.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

    he is on drug? so he took a single drug?

  • Dave Oshry

    He’s on a drug, called Charlie Sheen

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCJUARV5KI4FJTIOH4YYHJAOZQ Nelson

    stupid ass fanboys in here. anyways i will be getting Rage on 360 as he is pretty much saying it is the better console version.

  • Anonymous

    Of course. The console that you’ll be sticking the last decade of slave labor onto six discs at lower performance, versus one disc and better performance. And from a nerd who loves getting the most out of his creations, it only makes sense that he that makes this statement, right?
    /planned sarcasm…
    If you guys weren’t already aware, Microsoft made a publicity deal with Bethseda a little after the release of Fallout 3, for DLC delays on opposing consoles and whatnot. If you weren’t already aware, they have had that deal going since. That is why Skyrim is being developed on the 360, not the PC, first. That is why idTech is praising the 360. That is why the Brink was made on the 360 and ported to PS3. That is why New Vegas for PS3 was ported. These devs are owned by Bethseda, and Bethseda likes their moneys.

  • Sgc22222

    Xbox360 is probably the easiest console in the history to develop games for, so of course most developers prefer the 360.

  • http://tfmdvd.com Joe

    Oh yes, total fail on my part. Sorry I didn’t include as of not released games, and games that aren’t going to be move supported but on the PS3. Jeez. That’s what I get for not using a trusted source like…erm, wikipedia. You so silly, April.

  • Real Gamer12

    Blah blah blah Xbox First!! Blah blah blah Ps3 second!! Who da f#* cares about this guys opinion… I know that ps3 is better than 360 and thats my opinion. I just like it more- so don’t fu%in start a fanboy war ! (the definition of fanboy: FANBOY – a poor noobish person who only supports the console he owns cause he doesn’t haw a life)

  • Robert

    Wow, the PS3 has been failing for more than 5 years. You should be used to last place by now.

  • SteveM

    How much is Microsoft paying this guy? The xbox 360 is a piece of crap that breaks down 60% of the time. It’s an outdated technology from the last decade.

  • John

    Well – This guy is a retard without a doubt! Best console ever is still the PS2! 2nd best is PS3. 360 is a low-end PC in a box, thats all.

  • John

    Well – This guy is a retard without a doubt! Best console ever is still the PS2! 2nd best is PS3. 360 is a low-end PC in a box, thats all.

  • John

    Well – This guy is a retard without a doubt! Best console ever is still the PS2! 2nd best is PS3. 360 is a low-end PC in a box, thats all.

  • John

    Last place of what exactly? U guys are such retards! Sales does not mean ‘winners’ or ‘losers’ or else Mario would be the greatest game ever made. Fucking americans like u………. retarded donkeys!

  • John

    Last place of what exactly? U guys are such retards! Sales does not mean ‘winners’ or ‘losers’ or else Mario would be the greatest game ever made. Fucking americans like u………. retarded donkeys!

  • John

    Last place of what exactly? U guys are such retards! Sales does not mean ‘winners’ or ‘losers’ or else Mario would be the greatest game ever made. Fucking americans like u………. retarded donkeys!

  • John

    2nd place? 1st place? Who makes this shit up? its up to the consumers to decide what is best. u knobhead!

  • John

    Sorry mate, PS2 = greatest console ever!

  • John

    Sorry mate, PS2 = greatest console ever!

  • Repaerreaper

    good to know that you are such an expert when it comes to consoles, I mean my X360 fails all the time….. get your facts straight, my X360 is phenomenal and I use it all the time, but I’m not saying it is better than the PS3 because my PS3 works just as good as my X360, I just use be xbox more, anyways stop being such a fanboy 

  • Repaerreaper

    good to know that you are such an expert when it comes to consoles, I mean my X360 fails all the time….. get your facts straight, my X360 is phenomenal and I use it all the time, but I’m not saying it is better than the PS3 because my PS3 works just as good as my X360, I just use be xbox more, anyways stop being such a fanboy 

  • ReaperofMadness

    no need to freak out, you don’t have to call people retards for just expressing their opinion and why the hell do you bring racism in this?! Being an American doesn’t automatically make us retarded donkeys, in fact you being angry and freaking out about something silly as this makes you retarded donkey

  • Ed

    also this coming from a developer of an fps has he done any other genre? what a nerd

  • Ed

    and people are expecting so much from rage, but how many fps games have come out promising all this stuff and not delivering fps are getting stale as fuck. doom 3 was honestly borderline trash. design styles also have changed tech is constantly changing trust me when I say that yes john carmack is a legend but new designers and techs are way more advanced then him he really hasnt evolved as a designer cause if he had he wouldnt whine about how difficult a system was to design for, he would just deal and actually enjoy the challenge. he comes across as a half ass nerd typical lazy ass american would rather have the easy uninspired way out

  • Anonymous

    Just because yours never failed doesn’t give you the right to being oblivious to the issue

  • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.benjamin Charlie Benjamin

    The 360 is a badly built and noisy machine prone to failure, only a standard dvd drive, no 3D support, no guaranteed hard drive space that developers can rely on, a pay-only online service, a rediculous points system for consumer purchases, and in terms of machine performance, a processing and graphics capability that reached its ceiling within the first year of the 360′s launch.
    The PS3 is really well built, quiet and reliable. It comes with a blu ray drive, supports 3D games and movies, comes with a guaranteed hard drive space for developers to rely on, free online access, real-money system for consumer purchases, and in terms of machine performance, a processing and graphics capability that has already exceeded the 360, but has yet to reach its own ceiling yet.
    Of course, a high end PC can everything the PS3 does, and more, but only at five times the cost. The PS3 is by far the best console out there, and it sickens me to hear developers who have clearly been paid in one way or another to sing the praises of an inferior machine. 

  • Soccer_archie

    this guy does not make any sense. he says xbox is better then he says ps3 has better processor LOL. Sales does not matter to decide wats better. If u look at ps3 and its games i said enough and look at xbox with its games.even now no game has used the FULL power of the ps3 yet the only game close to is killzone 3 then it will be uncarted 3 so yeah this guys does not no anyhting about anything 

  • Soccer_archie

    this guy does not make any sense. he says xbox is better then he says ps3 has better processor LOL. Sales does not matter to decide wats better. If u look at ps3 and its games i said enough and look at xbox with its games.even now no game has used the FULL power of the ps3 yet the only game close to is killzone 3 then it will be uncarted 3 so yeah this guys does not no anyhting about anything 

  • Soccer_archie

    this guy does not make any sense. he says xbox is better then he says ps3 has better processor LOL. Sales does not matter to decide wats better. If u look at ps3 and its games i said enough and look at xbox with its games.even now no game has used the FULL power of the ps3 yet the only game close to is killzone 3 then it will be uncarted 3 so yeah this guys does not no anyhting about anything 

  • Anonymous

    How is it that almost everyone who has posted in this thread is
    apparently a mentally incompetent fanboy with no reading comprehension?

    John Carmack is a developer and, more specifically, a top graphics
    developer. His opinion is based on his experience MAKING games. He
    doesn’t give a shit that you all like Mario 64 or think the PS2 was rad.
    He was saying that the 360 is the best console to make games for from a
    developer’s perspective. RROD, DVD drive…these are irrelevant to his
    point, because they have nothing to do with programming a game.

    You like the PS3 better than the 360? Here, have a cookie and a pat on
    the head. That’s a fine opinion to have, but it has nothing to do with
    John Carmack.

  • Anonymous

    How is it that almost everyone who has posted in this thread is
    apparently a mentally incompetent fanboy with no reading comprehension?

    John Carmack is a developer and, more specifically, a top graphics
    developer. His opinion is based on his experience MAKING games. He
    doesn’t give a shit that you all like Mario 64 or think the PS2 was rad.
    He was saying that the 360 is the best console to make games for from a
    developer’s perspective. RROD, DVD drive…these are irrelevant to his
    point, because they have nothing to do with programming a game.

    You like the PS3 better than the 360? Here, have a cookie and a pat on
    the head. That’s a fine opinion to have, but it has nothing to do with
    John Carmack.

  • Anonymous

    How is it that almost everyone who has posted in this thread is
    apparently a mentally incompetent fanboy with no reading comprehension?

    John Carmack is a developer and, more specifically, a top graphics
    developer. His opinion is based on his experience MAKING games. He
    doesn’t give a shit that you all like Mario 64 or think the PS2 was rad.
    He was saying that the 360 is the best console to make games for from a
    developer’s perspective. RROD, DVD drive…these are irrelevant to his
    point, because they have nothing to do with programming a game.

    You like the PS3 better than the 360? Here, have a cookie and a pat on
    the head. That’s a fine opinion to have, but it has nothing to do with
    John Carmack.

  • T2k123

    Fuck off you for eyed pric, just cos your struggling to put it on ps3, learn to design games properly you cunt!

  • hAhA

    No I am pretty sure the rest of the world sea you as big retards

  • hogarth

    You’re an idiot. Of course its the truth, its a direct quote from the short article above. Also, nice self bump.

  • hogarth

    You’re an idiot. Of course its the truth, its a direct quote from the short article above. Also, nice self bump.

  • Anon 1111

    I think it’s laughable that the reason you guys buy consoles are based on ‘exclusives’ as this is the only thing you ‘gamers’ seem to winge about.

    Let’s be fair most games are multi platform and good ones at that so ‘exclusives’ meh. There’s also been a lot of talk around Ps3 exclusives recently as if there something special most if not all are pretty generic apart from uncharted.

    Both consoles have their faults xbox had RROD for some years and no blu ray, PS3 was made expensive and hard to program for no apparent reason and the ‘cell’ talk oh please stop it’s embarrassing. There’s a big list of faults fact is both have them and it is opinion which you prefer. Neither are bad consoles.

    FANBOYS blow me

  • Psicosis

    Carmack states the 360 is better, yet the PS3 version is the same eh?

    Sorry not buying that and I wish you were a little more honest because once this game goes retail and we all see the PC and 360 versions are superior when compared to the PS3 as usual, people will find it hard to believe you or trust you again.

    Just sayin’

  • Psicosis

    Carmack states the 360 is better, yet the PS3 version is the same eh?

    Sorry not buying that and I wish you were a little more honest because once this game goes retail and we all see the PC and 360 versions are superior when compared to the PS3 as usual, people will find it hard to believe you or trust you again.

    Just sayin’

  • Psicosis

    Carmack states the 360 is better, yet the PS3 version is the same eh?

    Sorry not buying that and I wish you were a little more honest because once this game goes retail and we all see the PC and 360 versions are superior when compared to the PS3 as usual, people will find it hard to believe you or trust you again.

    Just sayin’

  • guest

    This article admits the PS3 is the more powerful console (cos it is). Gamers want the best games, so naturally pick the most powerful console to deliver the best games (PS3). Shame this dev is not talented enough to understand/use the PS3 tools like other devs have demonstrated with the “many” awsome exclusive games the PS3 has!

  • Noway

    boo wii best yeeey :D

  • Noway

    boo wii best yeeey :D

  • Cjflora

    If I’m reading correctly he says “It’s the second best console ever made” not “It’s the second best console to develop for”.  

  • Anonymous

    Did you read the article or just the headline? I don’t mean to be a dick, but your rant has NOTHING to do with Carmack liking the 360 dev tools better. He wasn’t talking about a feature list or reliability, he was talking about programming. The PS3 is notoriously harder to develop for than the 360 because it has wonky architecture. That’s almost universally accepted at this point.

    Also, the idea that a PC that can do everything a PS3 can do costs 5 times as much is patently false. You can buy a pre-built PC that’s at least 3 times as fast as a PS3 for $500, and that’s not even getting into building one yourself.

  • Anonymous

    You’re reading that out of context. This is partially Ripten’s fault for doing the typical “let’s post a controversial headline which will bring lots of views” schtick, but still. Carmack has also talked about this at length in the past.

    “John says it’s not so much the power of the PS3 as it is the dev tools, which he says simply aren’t as good.”

  • Anonymous

    well carmack could ask for naughty dog and sony for help, hell even valve its jumping on the ps3

  • Devaughn81

    When a person writes an article like you just did it just SCREAMS biased. Both systems have good and bad points. You just tried to say all the bad about the 360, not the good.  360 is BY FAR the better online system.  Cross game chat alone is worth the price of live.  oy umention how the ps3 has not reached it ceiling as far as capability… that is kinda a bad thing it sure looks like it’ll peak a little to late. New systems will be out from other companies before ps3  “peaks”.  Why go backwards??? by this I mean RRoD vs ps3 total hardware failures. Why is it that comparing the SLIM 360 vs the SLIM ps3 hardware failures lean twards the ps3??? (if anyone posts a reply i’ll post a link or 2 about that from sony themselves)  I love my ps3 for the 10 games I own that are AWESOME SINGLE PLAYER titles.  I love my 360 for the 10x’s better online gaming.  There is a reason why multiplat online games sell almost 2-1 on 360. (sure some are closer) With the consoles getting closer as far as number of consoles sold, and even though this year more aaa exclusive titles are available for the ps3 (overall btw more exclusives for the 360, by a landslide) It’s a safe bet to say that Gears of war 3 and the halo remake will out sell the top 4 ps3 exclusives.  For some unknown reason othe ps3 fans don’t support the great games that do come out for the ps3 as much as 360 fans do… There has to be a reason for that.  But Charlie relax a bit when jumping on 1 side of the fence. when you do you can’t see everything on the other side.         side note on Blue ray, I love it it is the best quality out there… BUT as many people know will never hit the popularity of dvd or vhs… digital streaming and less movie/tv sales in general will see to that.

  • Nobleeight

    i have 360 and ps3 but i think carmack  is  a little Injustice.

  • EvoW0lf

    At least we American’s can spell in english. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/tidusforeverx2 Brennan Johns

    The guy said the 360 is easier to develop on that doesn’t mean the system functions better, it just means its far less complex and has much less thought and work put in. I would still like to point out that Microsoft, the company that created internet explorer, has yet to offer web browsing on their system. Honestly that is just lazy bullcrap. And, after idk how many years of red ring problems did they finally create a model that doesn’t break down after a year. AND the new model can’t red ring only because they took out the red LEDs but still overheats and forces you to shut it off… honestly the list goes on. And anyone that feels the itch to whine about the psn outtage can go the * somewhere else, because it has never been a hardware problem, and if anyone recalls xbox live being down for roughly 2 weeks last year and as had more stolen gamertags and hack credit cards than sony. And i have yet to see any verified proof that any CCs have been falsely accessed as a result of the network intrusion. Oh, and finally xbox is getting facebook….. im sorry didn’t the ps3 and the psp have that ability on day 1?…. (i hear crickets)…. exactly, and a special comment for all the idiots that are on their 3rd or more 360, you guys are dumb and will never learn and i hope humanity gives up on you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tidusforeverx2 Brennan Johns

    The guy said the 360 is easier to develop on that doesn’t mean the system functions better, it just means its far less complex and has much less thought and work put in. I would still like to point out that Microsoft, the company that created internet explorer, has yet to offer web browsing on their system. Honestly that is just lazy bullcrap. And, after idk how many years of red ring problems did they finally create a model that doesn’t break down after a year. AND the new model can’t red ring only because they took out the red LEDs but still overheats and forces you to shut it off… honestly the list goes on. And anyone that feels the itch to whine about the psn outtage can go the * somewhere else, because it has never been a hardware problem, and if anyone recalls xbox live being down for roughly 2 weeks last year and as had more stolen gamertags and hack credit cards than sony. And i have yet to see any verified proof that any CCs have been falsely accessed as a result of the network intrusion. Oh, and finally xbox is getting facebook….. im sorry didn’t the ps3 and the psp have that ability on day 1?…. (i hear crickets)…. exactly, and a special comment for all the idiots that are on their 3rd or more 360, you guys are dumb and will never learn and i hope humanity gives up on you.

  • poonani

    Sorry the Greatest Console was Super Nintendo followed by the N64. PS2 can take third.

  • KingNintendoFanboy

    The NES is the best console ever.  This guy is a noob.

  • KingNintendoFanboy

    The NES is the best console ever.  This guy is a noob.

  • KingNintendoFanboy

    The NES is the best console ever.  This guy is a noob.

  • KingNintendoFanboy

    The NES is the best console ever.  This guy is a noob.

  • KingNintendoFanboy

    The NES is the best console ever.  This guy is a noob.

  • Dave Oshry

    HAHAHA I love you Justin.

  • Dave Oshry

    HAHAHA I love you Justin.

  • Dave Oshry

    HAHAHA I love you Justin.

  • Dave Oshry

    HAHAHA I love you Justin.

  • Dave Oshry

    HAHAHA I love you Justin.

  • Chronosoldier19

    who gives a fuck..Fanboys need to die

  • Dave Oshry

    THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

  • DisposableHero

    lol @ the retarded console kiddies who clearly don’t have a clue what he means.  And what the fuck is with all you people calling him ‘lazy’ or ‘not talented’, John Carmack is nothing short of a legend in the games industry and is a genius when it comes to games development. -_-

  • DisposableHero

    lol @ the retarded console kiddies who clearly don’t have a clue what he means.  And what the fuck is with all you people calling him ‘lazy’ or ‘not talented’, John Carmack is nothing short of a legend in the games industry and is a genius when it comes to games development. -_-

  • Phatty216

    That’s speaking as a dev.
    Speaking as a consumer, the PS3 has me sold because of blu ray capabilities, more exclusives I would rather play, and free online.
    Xbox has nothing for me besides Gears…..there is no other game I would play on that thing.

    The Wii is just good drunk fun.

  • Inja

    no when he was typing he made a mistake. Is that acceptable for you- to make a mistake?

  • Inja

    no when he was typing he made a mistake. Is that acceptable for you- to make a mistake?

  • Dave Oshry

    How dare you talk about the people who read RipTen in such a way!! :-p

  • Dave Oshry

    Get your reasoning and logic out of my flamebait article, sir!!  ^__^

  • Dave Oshry

    People don’t read my articles, just my headlines.  They also probably bounced here from N4G, sorry bruh, it’s not your fault, don’t lose hope :-)

  • Zeferggzfez

    1.SNES
    2.PS1

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha. It’s OK Dave, if some of the commentors actually read your fine work beneath the title, I wouldn’t be ragin’!

  • Johan Sjolin

    This is not really anything new is it? Developers have been saying the PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop on for years.

  • Dave Oshry

    Pshh, nobody reads my articles, that’s why they call me Johnny Headline!! m/_((><))

  • James Gadbury

    From a developer’s point of view, developing on the PS3 is difficult – that’s what he’s saying.  He’s got RAGE looking near identical across three platforms, looking great and running at 60FPS, and I bet id had to work harder on the PS3 version for the same results.  Actually, they had to refactor the code for their Id Tech 5 engine just to make it work on the PS3.

    Now go educate yourself, ignorant fool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoLaA-CVmTE

  • James Gadbury

    From a developer’s point of view, developing on the PS3 is difficult – that’s what he’s saying.  He’s got RAGE looking near identical across three platforms, looking great and running at 60FPS, and I bet id had to work harder on the PS3 version for the same results.  Actually, they had to refactor the code for their Id Tech 5 engine just to make it work on the PS3.

    Now go educate yourself, ignorant fool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoLaA-CVmTE

  • Damion23

    “why the hell do you bring racism in this?! Being an American doesn’t automatically make us retarded donkeys”

    Racism???? Americans are NOT A RACE at all, we are a nation. I’m American, but we are not a race other than the human race. 

    Americans are from a nation, not a race. There is a DIFFERENCE kid. (white people with no culture thinks americans are a race…plz)

  • Anonymous

    Things that do more, but are harder to work with, will always rank 2nd. Until it’s mastered, then it becomes more clear.

  • Anonymous

    Things that do more, but are harder to work with, will always rank 2nd. Until it’s mastered, then it becomes more clear.

  • Shinox

    Ahahaha .. He’s kidding right .. Right guys ?

  • Croaker

    Not talented? A good portion of those exclusives wouldn’t even exist without this man. Show some fucking respect, you childish fanboy prick. No one cares you wish you could put your dick inside tour PS3 to fill the void in you that drives you to cling to a CONSUMER product like it’s your god. Assholes like fanboys don’t even deserve to play games if they’re going to bad mouth the men and women who work their asses off so you can enjoy yourself. There’s a new game you should check out, it’s not on the PS3, and it’s called grow the fuck up. You should start playing today.

  • Croaker

    Not talented? A good portion of those exclusives wouldn’t even exist without this man. Show some fucking respect, you childish fanboy prick. No one cares you wish you could put your dick inside tour PS3 to fill the void in you that drives you to cling to a CONSUMER product like it’s your god. Assholes like fanboys don’t even deserve to play games if they’re going to bad mouth the men and women who work their asses off so you can enjoy yourself. There’s a new game you should check out, it’s not on the PS3, and it’s called grow the fuck up. You should start playing today.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/4ZHFYTGM3DUVSFJAPJ3JEIYHTI ixce-IX

    your are definitely in the minority.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone remember when Gabe Newell of Valve made this mistake?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335944344 Stefano Canali

    Loved when you said you hoped to hear “Dreamcast”.
    :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335944344 Stefano Canali

    Loved when you said you hoped to hear “Dreamcast”.
    :)

  • Dave Oshry

    SEGA fanboy for life.

  • lolnoobsgetalife

    Bunch of Faggots in here.

  • Dave Oshry

    Hayyyyyyyyyyyyyy :-p

  • Josh

    PS3 hasn’t been last for awhile. I just went to vgchartz to make sure I was correct and the week of Aug 13th PS3 was top sold worldwide for consoles. 3DS is first for everything. 360 was 3rd. So to those saying “enjoy being 2nd or 3rd”. You are basing it off total sales overall since the 360 was released. It had a year head start. PS3 is catching up and will overtake the 360 within the year for overall total sales since the beginning. 

  • Josh
  • Devaughn81

    If you live in japan or a few other countries awesome. Joshie ole boy… look at your same charts… but the americas.  If you live in the US ps3 is getting beat badly still.  I really don’t care about prducts that are popular elsewhere. I don’t live there.  My economy and game prices here are what I care about.

  • AmericaFuckyea

    Well you can eat a big fat dick….I’m pretty sure us retarted Americans have bailed out pretty much every country or kicked there ass…lmao and its see not sea stupid fuck…bet your a dumb fuckn german hotdog or a big headed tea drinking britrash fuck wad.

  • Shekur

    of course the devs like the 360 better its basiclly a pc.  I like the ps3 because of the value, bluray isnt going anywhere anytime soon. as far as sales the ps3 is a year ahead of the 360 and of course gears will out sale the ps3 exclusives its one game versus 5. and why would people hate on playstation on a playstation site you must really hate your life.

  • Shekur

    of course the devs like the 360 better its basiclly a pc.  I like the ps3 because of the value, bluray isnt going anywhere anytime soon. as far as sales the ps3 is a year ahead of the 360 and of course gears will out sale the ps3 exclusives its one game versus 5. and why would people hate on playstation on a playstation site you must really hate your life.

  • Anonymous

    Mad… Snes is so easy even a twelve year old could develop a game for it

  • Anonymous

    Mad… Snes is so easy even a twelve year old could develop a game for it

  • Jonah

    wow, and you’re not making americans look any smarter..

  • Jonah

    wow, and you’re not making americans look any smarter..

  • Jonah

    wow, and you’re not making americans look any smarter..

  • Kratoscar

    The question is about “What is the best console ever made” so you must take in account the console as a whole the ps3 clearly kick the hell out of the 360. If Carmack cant handle the ps3 the he must swallow his proud and ask for advice to those who can (Square enix, Konami) or not create a game for it at all  and not making stupid statements.

    And for those who worship him you are as bad as Eric Harris the one who caused the columbine masacre so make us a favor and kill yourselves.

    Maybe he created the fps genre but if he hasnt then other would have done it. The reason he prefer the 360 is because is full of fps and he to have a ego boost every time he see a fps and think “Those are my bitches”.

  • Kratoscar

    The question is about “What is the best console ever made” so you must take in account the console as a whole the ps3 clearly kick the hell out of the 360. If Carmack cant handle the ps3 the he must swallow his proud and ask for advice to those who can (Square enix, Konami) or not create a game for it at all  and not making stupid statements.

    And for those who worship him you are as bad as Eric Harris the one who caused the columbine masacre so make us a favor and kill yourselves.

    Maybe he created the fps genre but if he hasnt then other would have done it. The reason he prefer the 360 is because is full of fps and he to have a ego boost every time he see a fps and think “Those are my bitches”.

  • DOMO

    I agree with John here, you 360 body guards need to lighten up and judge things fairly more often, gets really annoying when all you say is RROD is just a small thing it doesn’t matter or all we need is Halo and Gears, for Christ sake give your inner fan boy a rest, 2 major exclusive franchises, a bill for online gaming, 54% of RROD and the supervision of the greediest company in the world (Micro$oft not Apple), tell me how on earth can you defend that?   

  • DOMO

    I agree with John here, you 360 body guards need to lighten up and judge things fairly more often, gets really annoying when all you say is RROD is just a small thing it doesn’t matter or all we need is Halo and Gears, for Christ sake give your inner fan boy a rest, 2 major exclusive franchises, a bill for online gaming, 54% of RROD and the supervision of the greediest company in the world (Micro$oft not Apple), tell me how on earth can you defend that?   

  • Guest

    “I know that ps3 is better than 360 and that’s my opinion.”………please read that over and just think for more than 2 seconds…..Did it make any sense to you, because it really shouldn’t.  You THINK the ps3 is better and that’s your OPINION. You’re mixing fact and opinion up in the same sentence for god’s sake. And since no one cares about his opinion, then why are you making a deal out of it?  This whole comment is full of contradiction.

  • MEDzZ3RO

    The tools are just as good if not better, fact of the matter is they’re more complex. Someone clearly lacks the skills and intelligence a lot of Sonys first party developers do, you never hear them complaining.

  • MEDzZ3RO

    Assuming you’re referring to sales. Funniest thing I find when reading this statement (that I’ve seen multiple times) is that people seem to forget the Xbox 360 has been in the market 1 year longer. Turn back the clock to this time last year and compare current PS3 worldwide sales will Xbox 360 sales, I think you’ll find the PS3 is ahead by a couple million. You only need to take a look on VGChartzto see it’s true. Sure their game data isn’t always spot on but their hardware charts are, they’re updated weekly.
    On that basis, a year by year basis where both systems are compared equally, the 360 is technically “last” in terms of sales. Worse still that’s including systems that were purchased to replace a broken one, fail figures were as high as 60% at one point, granted they’re lower now but still higher then that of the Wii or PS3. 

  • mckt

    patriotic retard can’t spell ‘sea’. Clever.

  • Do So 9999

    Man,wtf???Nobody gives a damn about xbox.99% of the gamers have ps3 or ps2.Sony playstation is in the first place for 15 years.Dude wake up!!

  • Warcen2008

    ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  • Warcen2008

    ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  • Warcen2008

    ps3 was better then xbox360. not games software but the hardware itself and what it provided. and this guy i hvave seen with a 360 100 times so i am really suprised

  • OldManMoody

    Of course it’s easier to develop a game on the 360, it’s a toy, a cheap one at that.  Easier means less costly to develop, less time consuming=more $$$$.  But is it a better console than the PS3….HELL NO!.  This comes from a dual console owner.  The list is a mile long on the shortcomings of the 360 from console failure rates to costly MP charges.  I have a 360 for the few exclusives (good ones) it brings to the table.  But the majority of my gaming is done on my PS3, not to mention NETFLIX access and before I forget a less “childish” MP experience.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WGG4EITWFZFSHMWMQHTR6UH4GI Don Pedro

    Methinks this guy is living on past laurels, what’s he done lately?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WGG4EITWFZFSHMWMQHTR6UH4GI Don Pedro

    Methinks this guy is living on past laurels, what’s he done lately?

  • AverreDavnros

    So…Carmack talks about how the PS3 is the 2nd best system (which he is incorrect, it’s the third best) and the comments go into PS3 fanboi’s calling others ‘retards’. How very original.

    *sigh* and PS3 fans actually have the audacity to wonder why real gamers despise them.

    Getting this uptight over a piece of plastic is just sad and makes one wonder what type of life you have beyond that big black box of fail you defend.

    Sales mean everything to business. If the PS3 sold as well as the Wii then PS3 fanboi’s would be throwing numbers in people’s face all the time…instead they pussy out and whine about how sales don’t matter, not only lying to other people but to themselves as well…nothing like blind, stupid fanboi brand loyalty to turn a normal gamer into a raving lunatic.

    Here’s a bit of advice:

    Admit that you couldn’t see that this system was a load of fail back in 2006.

    Stop swallowing to the bullshit Kaz Hirai keeps feeding you

    Admit that you had no idea what the “Emotion Engine” did when you first heard about it.

    Admit that you suck

    Move on with your life and realize that Sony and Hirai don’t give two squirts of piss about your absurd, creepy and insane loyality.

  • AverreDavnros

    So…Carmack talks about how the PS3 is the 2nd best system (which he is incorrect, it’s the third best) and the comments go into PS3 fanboi’s calling others ‘retards’. How very original.

    *sigh* and PS3 fans actually have the audacity to wonder why real gamers despise them.

    Getting this uptight over a piece of plastic is just sad and makes one wonder what type of life you have beyond that big black box of fail you defend.

    Sales mean everything to business. If the PS3 sold as well as the Wii then PS3 fanboi’s would be throwing numbers in people’s face all the time…instead they pussy out and whine about how sales don’t matter, not only lying to other people but to themselves as well…nothing like blind, stupid fanboi brand loyalty to turn a normal gamer into a raving lunatic.

    Here’s a bit of advice:

    Admit that you couldn’t see that this system was a load of fail back in 2006.

    Stop swallowing to the bullshit Kaz Hirai keeps feeding you

    Admit that you had no idea what the “Emotion Engine” did when you first heard about it.

    Admit that you suck

    Move on with your life and realize that Sony and Hirai don’t give two squirts of piss about your absurd, creepy and insane loyality.

  • Averre

    “52.4% failure rate”

    ^This right here is the whine of the truly desperate PS3 fanboi. Forgetting the fact that the PS3 can’t even begin to catch up to the sales of the 360, since the PS3 is out in 2012, it never will.

    So, how does the gass look on the PS3 in games like Mafia 2? What’s that you say? the PS3 can’t render it? What a shame.

  • Do So 9999

    AverreDavnros take your pills that your shrink gave you and go to sleep!!Wii is your choice?Man you are such a fag!I bet you have a barbie right now playing with it.I can’t stop laughing with your situation.PS1 made a revolution in games(XBOX,or other console wouldn’t even exist if there wasn’t Sony Playstation) and still through PS2 and PS3 dominates not only in sales but in quality as well.Plus you moron it has most games in numbers and the most games that you play at your stupidpussy console are coming first in the PS3 and then the others follow.(and always has since PS1).Admit it your fake consoles are just imitations and everybody knows that.I have tried all the games and all the consoles since I was born and Wii is for 8-12 years old girls exploring their vegine as you I bet!                                                                 

  • supergauntlet

    Please, stop fanboy trolling.

    3d support is irrelevant because (imo) it sucks. FPS drops, etc.

    bluray has a lower bitrate read speed, and is therefore inferior for games.

    The PS3 is not some magical graphics powerhouse. It has potential, yes, but its dev tools are much harder to use than Xbox or PC. Sony also doesn’t support indie devs.

    Oh, and my $400 PC outperforms my PS3 by a mile.

  • Do So 9999

    I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  • Do So 9999

    I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  • Do So 9999

    I’m sicking tired of those people trying to support their opinion by referring to technical matters and trying to make mechanical surgery,just to convise us that the PS3 is overrated.I’d like to say to those computer freaks that we don’t give A SHIT about their obsession.It’s all about games and fun!!(Yeah it’s that simple morons).And I know by first hand that PS3 in these two categories takes the first in the hearts of the gamers!That’s why it has the most fans,hello!!!But I know this is something that you can’t live with that,can you??

  • Dragonfist

    Dear John:
    Sony has always measured its success in sales, and domination in a weakened game economy in the late 90′s. As for mario (hehe irony) It IS pretty much the greatest, or atleast most prominent gaming series of all time. In-fact, the peek of golden age gaming was around the Japanese release of super mario bros. Imo the real peek of  classic gaming was super mario 3 (btw: i hate Wii so i am no fanboy) and don’t let me get started on the newest Mario releases.

    Taste and relevance aside, we have to measure things by some margin. So by sales, releases, fan following and cultural relevance mario IS pretty much the great…at-least for right now.

    As for the American thing…Well i am a very open American who is married to a European and embraced her familys ways, there way of life and language and was still subject to stupid ignorance like:
    1. Arent you all Catholics ?
    2. Arent you overweight from McDonalds
    3. Don’t you blow up brown people?
    They are always stupefied  im American because im not catholic, i hate McDonalds, im not fat, and im brown.Ignorant Bigots (no matter where they are from) are “retarded donkeys”.

  • REAL GAMER

    Xbox 360 is the best ever? ? ? F**KING LOL! ! ! 

  • http://twitter.com/obiadekanobi adrian cole

    at least the move doesnt need a fotballers size house for a play area and it has first party games like killzone 3, socom4, which are awsome with the sharp shooter only negative is swinging the thing to turn the camera but other than that gr8 fun

    heres a play session on kennect…..jump…..jump……jump/spin……then it doesnt work until u reset the console and that xboxtalk is a gimmick for fat americans to change there porn without having a heart attack while reaching 3ft for the remote/controller……

    the truth hurst dont it xbox fannys god i hate this gen for what its become….. a fan war!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIVZMF47JN22U3QKMCGH2WKKI4 dfw

    Typical anti american assholes dont even realize the’re just as IGNORANT and ARROGANT as the Fox News crowd. You think most of us are KKK members obviously you know nothing about the US except anti-us propaganda.When the kkk marches in   NY they get pelted with objects and are forced to leave, because they’re the scum of the country. BTW: US is one of a small handful of countries where females own more of the wealth and have higher education rates. You say nothing good comes from here when the states has likely been the most innovative country of the past 200 years, from the bulbs you are now using to the planes that fly you away from your miserable home, phones, internet, and i could go on, were all invented by Americans or inside the US.

    You say that we talk shit, well read this message board and see the typical anti-us hypocrite who started talking shit. You guys are the ones who come onto OUR websites and start bigoted arguments such as this one. Check any political discussion on Youtube or Facebook if you dont believe me. 

    Btw, whenever you generalize Americans negatively you are talking about my family, my fiance, my friends, etc. all of whom are certainly far more respectful and less arrogant than you. So look in the mirror, yank-hating idiots, next time you want to criticize someone. 

  • Do So 9999

    Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

  • Do So 9999

    Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

  • Do So 9999

    Ignorant and arrogant?I think you are talking to yourself.Tell me tell you what your country is:nothing.And I’m not saying it because i hate america,but cause its the historic truth!Its the most fake country ever in the history of the planet!You are not even americans!The only true americans are the Indians and you know it!If the europeans hadn’t have discovered you,you wouldn’t even exist.The truth is that all the today americans are coming from the europeans.You are europeans but you dont know it.This is the most hilarious and ironic!As for the America as a country hasn’t offered nothing to the world.Greece,Europe and the rest of the world offered civilization,education and true history!You only exist as a nation for only 368 years.And the wealth of the US is because the europeans!Open a history book first and you will know who you truly are.Really i feel sorry for you cause you dont even have your own history but its borrowed.You are a fake nation that the europeans created!The only thing that you have offered is bad movies,idioticattitude,drags and wars.Thank you but we are much better without you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIVZMF47JN22U3QKMCGH2WKKI4 dfw

    That was an idiotic response which was just a bunch of opinionated nonsense, a failed attempt at justifying your hatred. Anti-americans are the biggest idiots in the world because of their hypocrisy which exists on so many levels. 

    1. I’m fairly certain no white American has ever denied their European heritage. What are you talking about?

    2. USA is a fake nation? Okay, fine. But how are we faker than the hundreds of colonized nations that exist in the Western hemisphere, Africa, Australia, parts of Asia, Germany [1871]…all of these countries are actually younger than the US. Is every immigrant on the planet “fake”???

    3. The US has actually existed as a nation for 235 years. So far your history is terrible, and you’re telling ME to read history? HAHA

    4. If us stupid Americans citizens really never offered anything to the world, please stop using the internet, dont use lights, never fly again, dont use Microsoft or Apple products, dont make phone calls, cancel your facebook account, dont google things or watch youtube, dont watch our movies, our tv, or play our games, dont consume our food/ beverages…. i could continue all day but you get the point. Of course, you will do some of these things tomorrow, because you bigoted hypocrites can’t live without American innovation. Oh, and stop reading this site.

    5. Europe invented the imperialist war. We inherited the shameful tradition of world domination through war from Europeans. Europeans caused deaths in the hundreds of millions through war, disease, and oppression.  More ignorant hypocrisy, thanks for the laugh. 

    6. We offer drugs to the world? Don’t the more liberal laws of some European countries actually allow MORE drugs? 
     
    7. You proved my initial point beautifully. You ignorant, arrogant, hypocritical, bigot, like all American haters are. Thanks.

  • Do So 9999

    No i’m not an american hater,i’m just telling the truth.You were discovered in 1492.I said 368 years ago  with ironic sense.I know more history than you believe me.You said it yourself,you only exist as a nation for only 235 years.Europe exists from the ancient years.Maybe some nations were colonized but as human beings are existing for thousands of years.Nation and State are two different things.Learn to separate them!You haven’t filled not even a half of a century.Survive for at least 5.000 years and then you can start saying that you have build a nation.When we had a civilization,democracy,society and culture you didn’t even exist as monkeys.Youowe your existence to Europe.And if you think that tv,movies,apple,facebook or games is an offer to the civilization then man you are a big joke.They are just shits of the modern technology that statistical they caused only damage to the people and in relationships between them.So 0+0=0 that you offered.You complain that you have terrorist when the biggest terrorist are you.You kill all those years their children and their families in the East,and then you are wondering why they hate you.You are just crazy.What happened to you in 11sept,you cause it every year in the East.Of course there will be consequences you sick,stupid morons!ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ  ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ!!(EVERYONE WHO IS NOT GREEK IS A BARBARIAN!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1009478830 J.g. Lukaras

    man, both of you are idiots for arguing on the internet. btw, overly patriotic americans are just as annoying as american haters.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1009478830 J.g. Lukaras

    ironic, considering your adoration for keeping the tradition alive by making fun of fellow gamers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AIVZMF47JN22U3QKMCGH2WKKI4 dfw

    1.    
    I dont wish to argue who is a more significant contributor to
    civilization, of course Europe is older and has more history to show.
    [But the US has done more than anyone in modern times.] You keep saying that
    nothing has come from here although you blatantly ignored [because you’re a
    hater] the significant inventions and innovations that have shaped the modern
    world. My point was you anti-yanks use many American things every day as you
    insult the country, which is one reason why you’re a hypocrite.

     

    2.      
    I don’t appreciate being called a terrorist, I’m
    far more respectful than you and I hate war. You keep forgetting that European
    nations are the biggest murderers in history, specifically the British Empire…with
    the Spanish, Russians, Germans, and French close behind. But you don’t see
    Americans calling you terrorists, do we? [We aren’t as simple minded as idiot
    US-haters]

     

    3.      
    There is no need for us to continue this
    conversation buddy, because my only point was that us-haters are ignorant
    hypocrites, and you can’t disagree. 

  • thetruth

    He is all talk. The game came out and it sucks!

  • Anonymous

    But not punctuate, apparently.

  • Tony

    isn’t playstation move a wiimote with a light on top? i remember the Sony higher ups making fun of the wii. that’s extremely ironic isn’t it?

  • Grgr

    Idiots…you all live in denial!!!!!!!!

  • Grgr

    xbox gets 4th place, after Wii even…fuck xbox!!!!!!